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#1 mitcheyfex

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Posted 19 September 2017 - 10:21 AM

Hey guys,

 

Thought i'd start this topic as i'm a newbie but have an interest in making my PC perform better, its a half decent build but could be better, i'm a newbie so wanted your advice on this - what i'm ideally looking for is:

 

Faster performance (For tasks such as, browsing, opening programs, editing documents, gaming, navigating media player)

Better sound - I love my music and i want my computer sounding as crisp and clear as possible will a better sound card help me achieve this?

 

Gaming - I want to improve performance for gaming, visuals, speed, colour.


What do you recommend I upgrade? Is it worth a graphics card upgrade, is it worth a sound card upgrade? is it worth me even upgrading the processor to maybe an i7?

Have a look tell me what you think:

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System Name    DESKTOP-6HH5N0M
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Processor    Intel® Core™ i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz, 3301 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
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SMBIOS Version    2.7
Embedded Controller Version    255.255
BIOS Mode    Legacy
BaseBoard Manufacturer    ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
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PCR7 Configuration    Binding Not Possible
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Posted 19 September 2017 - 10:30 AM

Up your GPU, it will help loads.

The GTX 560 Ti is quite old in GPU terms.

Even a cheap GPU from this generation would beat it like the 1050Ti

 

http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=3669&gid2=463&compare=geforce-gtx-1050-ti-4gb-vs-geforce-gtx-560-ti

 

Also SSD's will help

 

As for sound card... meh unless you are a extreme audiophile they are useless.

 

Everything else checks out, even your i5-2500K is still good though it is starting to get long in the teeth for gaming, Sandy bridge does have some life in it though.


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Posted 19 September 2017 - 10:50 AM

Up your GPU, it will help loads.

The GTX 560 Ti is quite old in GPU terms.

Even a cheap GPU from this generation would beat it like the 1050Ti

 

http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=3669&gid2=463&compare=geforce-gtx-1050-ti-4gb-vs-geforce-gtx-560-ti

 

Also SSD's will help

 

As for sound card... meh unless you are a extreme audiophile they are useless.

 

Everything else checks out, even your i5-2500K is still good though it is starting to get long in the teeth for gaming, Sandy bridge does have some life in it though.


Very helpful indeed, appreciate the insight! whats your opinion on my motherboard? is it good enough to handle an upgraded GPU? Sorry i'm a newbie, is there also any other changes i would need to make if i'm upgrading the GPU?

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Posted 19 September 2017 - 10:53 AM

I cannot determine your motherboards make or model, please use speccy:

 

https://www.piriform.com/speccy

 

https://www.piriform.com/docs/speccy/using-speccy/publishing-a-speccy-profile-to-the-web

 

Keep in mind LGA 1155 is old and not very well supported anymore.

I dont think its worthy to up to a i7 on it, even used its rather costly.

Even Ebay prices are not worth your time.


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Posted 19 September 2017 - 10:58 AM

http://speccy.piriform.com/results/YpsXJQJBnKoHDgUmfbhTLc4

Here we go =)



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Posted 19 September 2017 - 11:05 AM

Yeah looks like there wont be many things you can do here other than I suggested, maybe more RAM but its up to you if you want to invest a lot in what you have.
I mean its still a good machine, even if you decided to sell it off it would fetch you a bit of cash towards a new build.

I will leave that in your hands but now is a good time to start looking into buying new hardware if you want to keep gaming at good settings and good FPS.

If you dont want to thats fine, your machine will get a big boost if you take my suggestions.

Just go with that 1050Ti I suggested first for your GPU, your processor will be a bottleneck and you may wish to go low end on the GPU.

Got a decent power supply?


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Posted 19 September 2017 - 11:11 AM

Okay, thanks for your advice here, Would the GPU also speed up general function? opening programs and executing tasks as well as the gaming or will it just strictly help out gaming?

The PSU is alright i've heard its not a good brand but i think its 750w or 800w cant remember, may i ask what you mean when you refer to my processor as a "Bottleneck"? again do apologize im a newb



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Posted 19 September 2017 - 11:18 AM

The SSD will speed up your apps, there really isnt a kill two birds with one stone solution.

If possible when you can get the name and brand of your PSU,  I only ask that because you said it wasn't so good so i am only checking if you will need to replace that.

I would actually focus on that first as your PSU is more important than any other component.

You can cheap out on every part but not the PSU


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Posted 19 September 2017 - 11:24 AM

The SSD will speed up your apps, there really isnt a kill two birds with one stone solution.

If possible when you can get the name and brand of your PSU,  I only ask that because you said it wasn't so good so i am only checking if you will need to replace that.

I would actually focus on that first as your PSU is more important than any other component.

You can cheap out on every part but not the PSU

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Posted 19 September 2017 - 11:30 AM

Yeah I would get that taken care of, Ace seems to have a very bad reputation.

I mean its nice that its lasted this long if its the power supply you chose for your build but never know if its capacitors will blow.

I know its another cost but I would factor it in as something to do for your computer. you can ignore the GPU and for now get a SSD or the PSU.

I just dont want anything to happen to your hardware as again you can sell it, suere you will need another PSU if you make another build but its better to sell it with a good PSU than a potential ticking time bomb.


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Posted 19 September 2017 - 11:32 AM

Yeah I would get that taken care of, Ace seems to have a very bad reputation.

I mean its nice that its lasted this long if its the power supply you chose for your build but never know if its capacitors will blow.

I know its another cost but I would factor it in as something to do for your computer. you can ignore the GPU and for now get a SSD or the PSU.

I just dont want anything to happen to your hardware as again you can sell it, suere you will need another PSU if you make another build but its better to sell it with a good PSU than a potential ticking time bomb.

 Duely noted, i'll get right to that, this wasn't my build i actually bought it like this, so I hope its not too hard to change!



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Posted 19 September 2017 - 11:36 AM

Changing the PSU isnt that hard, but it can be frustrating at times depending on your machine.

Care to give me a figure you are willing to pay?

I will probably refer you to amazon.uk as according to speccy you are from that region.

I know a few brands you can buy from that would be better.

Trust me this is a good start either way, I just know how those cheap PSU's can be... explosion factories to be polite about it.

 

If you need a tutorial on how to install a PSU i can link a video.


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Posted 19 September 2017 - 01:13 PM

Changing the PSU isnt that hard, but it can be frustrating at times depending on your machine.

Care to give me a figure you are willing to pay?

I will probably refer you to amazon.uk as according to speccy you are from that region.

I know a few brands you can buy from that would be better.

Trust me this is a good start either way, I just know how those cheap PSU's can be... explosion factories to be polite about it.

 

If you need a tutorial on how to install a PSU i can link a video.


Yeah i would love a video link, i don't want to spend too much but will spend what i have to so no figure in mind, yep amazon UK would be the one!

 

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Posted 19 September 2017 - 01:35 PM

No problem.

This power supply here would probably do the trick, its fully modular so would be easier to work with than the normal cable octopus type power supplies:

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/EVGA-Modular-Warranty-Compact-220-B3-0550-V3/dp/B071HDP8TQ/ref=sr_1_58?s=computers&rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1505845215&sr=1-58&keywords=computer+power+supplies&refinements=p_76%3A419158031%2Cp_72%3A419153031

 

It would have plenty of juice as i think whoever was made your computer was overcompensating a little by giving you a large watt PSU.

550W is fine for now as your processor isn't power hungry and neither will any of the parts you may slap in here.

Even if you got your 1050ti it is not power hungry.

 

Here is a video on how you could do it on your own:

 

 

Just note that there is no real universal guide on PSU installation as cases are different and where things are located are different but the idea is still the same.

I just rather you have a new PSU regardless as i dont want you to go and upgrade and then have your power supply go on you


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Posted 19 September 2017 - 03:42 PM

No problem.

This power supply here would probably do the trick, its fully modular so would be easier to work with than the normal cable octopus type power supplies:

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/EVGA-Modular-Warranty-Compact-220-B3-0550-V3/dp/B071HDP8TQ/ref=sr_1_58?s=computers&rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1505845215&sr=1-58&keywords=computer+power+supplies&refinements=p_76%3A419158031%2Cp_72%3A419153031

 

It would have plenty of juice as i think whoever was made your computer was overcompensating a little by giving you a large watt PSU.

550W is fine for now as your processor isn't power hungry and neither will any of the parts you may slap in here.

Even if you got your 1050ti it is not power hungry.

 

Here is a video on how you could do it on your own:

 

 

Just note that there is no real universal guide on PSU installation as cases are different and where things are located are different but the idea is still the same.

I just rather you have a new PSU regardless as i dont want you to go and upgrade and then have your power supply go on you


MadMan,

 

 

Thank you so much for all your help, i will report back once i have done this!






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