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#1 DadaMan

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Posted 01 September 2017 - 04:09 PM

Dear Friends,
I was trying to stream live broadcast at http://www.tscnyc.org/webcasts/tuesday-7pm/ a black window opened which normally if I was running Windows 7 there would be a white arrow in the middle of that window to start the broadcast, But instead the window remained black and said:"Error loading player;No playable sources found."  Is this a matter of loading a specific player?
I'd attach a screenshot except I'm not really sure "how to"  as I am new to Linux.
If I go to YouTube as an example I can play those videos.,obviously those are not Live streaming though.
Please advise and Thank You! Puppy is Awesome!!!
Raphael

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Posted 02 September 2017 - 06:10 AM

Hallo, Raphael.

 

Now, then.... Sounds to me as though you've not got the default media player set. I've not used Slacko 6.3.2; I use several of the older Slackos (5.6.0, 5.7.0, for example), Tahr, Xenialpup.....they're all in my sig.

 

If you go into Menu->Multimedia, and look up the top, what d'you have installed? VLC? Gnome MPlayer? MPlayer is a default player with many Puppies, because it's lightweight, and will play pretty much anything. Streaming media, however, is not so easy to set up; I'd have to bone up on it, since I've never tried doing that myself.....and it'll help if I know which media player we're working with..!

 

(And yes; a screenshot will help, enormously. If you go to Menu->Graphics, and look down the bottom, you should see either Screeny, or Take a Shot!; let me know which one, and I'll talk you through using it.)

 

This is one of the 'sticking-points' with most Linux distros; where Windows is designed to be usable by pretty much any idiot off the street, you do have to be a wee bit more 'hands-on' in Linux (Puppy especially!), and do more of the setting-up yourself. Don't let that put you off, though; as you rightly say, Pup is 'awesome'.....and is well worth the extra effort required. There aren't too many OSs where you can carry the thing around in your pocket with you.....and in Puppy's case, it was designed to work that way from the very first release, over 13 years ago.

 

One last point. What are you running? USB install, hard drive install? And what type? Full, or the recommended choice, 'frugal'?

 

 

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Posted 02 September 2017 - 06:38 AM

Hi,

It might also be helpful to start your web browser application from the terminal in Puppy, as the terminal often displays messages about errors when they occur.

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Posted 02 September 2017 - 10:51 AM

Hello! Thank You!
 
It has the GNOME-mPlayer 1.0.9b.
I took a sceen shot using a webcam though it is a bit blurry i hope it will suffice.
 
I know nothing about starting in "terminal" and how that might affect this Error message?
 
Sincerely, Ralph
 
PS: I took a screen shot of the error window and I could NOT get this page to accept the URL or IMGUR.
unreal...

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Mod edit Al1000: post merged from https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/572947/starting-applications-from-the-terminal-in-ubuntu-based-distributions/

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Posted 02 September 2017 - 11:02 AM

Hello,
 
Hope all is well...
 
I have the gnome-player 1.0.9b. 
 
I know nothing about "Terminal" or how it might apply to this?
 
How do we insert screen shot on here
 
I took a screen shot with a webcam of the Error window,
 
I'm loading Puppy from a CD-R and later I found out its better w DVD or perhaps thumbdrive?!?
 
Sincerely, Ralph

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Posted 02 September 2017 - 06:16 PM

Hallo again, Raphael.
 
I've just read your post in the other thread that Al linked to, about how you couldn't get the Forum to accept an image from Imgur.....
 
How are you 'copying' the image? For forum use, you should use the 'Direct Link' box to the right of the screen. Like this:-
 
 
TS3l2n8.png
 
Having done that, to add the image to your post, use the 'Enter' key to position the cursor where you want the image in your post, then click on the 'Image' button above the message editor screen. Like this:-
 
 
Y8Uewnj.png
You'll get a URL box come up. Paste the image URL into the box, then hit 'OK'. Et voilà! There's your image in your post.
 
We do like to use images to illustrate points wherever possible, because there's no chance of mis-identifying a problem that way.
 
BTW:- The screenshot that you posted; is that in your browser, or where is it exactly? Is it a media player in your browser?
 
 
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Posted 02 September 2017 - 07:20 PM

Hello Mike!

THANK YOU!!!  :bowdown: 

I used the wrong Link as far as IMGUR.

The Screen shot is derived from this link http://www.tscnyc.org/webcasts/tuesday-7pm/  which is Live on Tuesday evenings, You can go back and stream it again until the following Tuesday.
I assume it plays on my computer via Windows Media Player when I stream it on my Windows 7 computah. 
Puppy won't stream it of coarse and I'm not sure why? There is a step or two or the media player is not set up correctly with Puppy? Like I said I'm on the beginning of the learning curve with Puppy/Linux. 
Quite an interesting collection of 
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Cheers, Raphael
 



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Posted 05 September 2017 - 04:39 AM

Hi,

I merged your post from the other topic, into this topic, to keep all questions relating to this issue in a single topic. :)

When you start an application from the terminal, messages concerning whatever errors are occurring are often displayed in the terminal. However, I have now booted up with Slacko 6.3 and tried what I was advising you to do, and unfortunately it doesn't provide any clues as to what the problem is, on this occasion.

A workaround is to install Google Chrome (version 46) from Puppy Package Manager, and use it to watch the video. You would then want to save the session when you shut the computer down, so that the changes are not lost, and Chrome will still be there the next time you boot up with Puppy. Please let me know if you want more information/advice regarding any of this.

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 08:55 AM

Thank You!.

 

hope all is well.

 

I'm not sure why Google  chrome version 46 makes any difference? how is that? Are you saying that the streaming will play without any further changes? What about the Gnome player or any player..how would that fit into this?

Where do I find the Puppy Package Manager? Links are helpful when and if possible.

 

Take care, Raphael

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 10:14 AM

I'm not sure why Google  chrome version 46 makes any difference? how is that? Are you saying that the streaming will play without any further changes? What about the Gnome player or any player..how would that fit into this?


Hi,

Yes, the video will play without making any further changes. Google Chrome comes with its own built-in media player, and version 46 is the latest version in Slacko 6.3's software repositories. You will find Puppy Package Manager in the Applications menu, under Setup. When Puppy Package Manager opens, do the following to update it:

1) Click on the Configure button. (The button with the image of a spanner and screwdriver on it)
2) A new window will open. In the new window, click the Update Database tab.
3) In the Update Database tab, click the Update now button.
4) Another new window will open. Press ENTER on your keyboard, when prompted to do so. Wait for the text to finish scrolling in the window, then press ENTER again, when prompted to do so. Repeat this step a few times, as prompted, until the text stops scrolling, and you see this message:

FINISHED
After restarting Puppy Package Manager (PPM),
it will be reading the updated database files.
Press ENTER key to exit:

5) Press ENTER on your keyboard again, and the current window will close.
6) Now press the OK button, and Puppy Package Manager will automatically restart.

Puppy Package Manager is now updated. The next thing to do is install Google Chrome. After Puppy Package Manager restarts, do the following:

1) Type chrome into the search box in Puppy Package Manager, then press ENTER on your keyboard.
2) Search results will appear below the search box. Click on Chrome. A message will then appear at the foot of the window, which will be similar but not identical to the message at the foot of the window in my screenshot below. (The reason for the difference is that I am using a USB, and you are using a CD)
slacko_puppy_install_chrome.png
3) With "Auto Install" selected from the drop down menu near the top right of the window, press the Do It! button. A new window will open while Google Chrome is automatically downloaded and installed, then a message telling you that the installation has sucessfully completed should appear when it has done so.

You will find Google Chrome in the Applications menu, under Internet.

When you shut the computer down, you will need to follow the prompts to save the session. I haven't used Slacko from a CD, but here are some instructions for saving Lucid Puppy to CD. I imagine Slacko will be very similar:
 

Now all that remains to be done, is to write another session to the CD during the shut down process, so that everything you have done will be saved. So with the CD in the drive, select "exit" from the Menu. The select the following options, when presented with them:

1) Shutdown
2) SAVE
3) administrator
4) SAVE TO CD

Now press Enter/Return on your keyboard to save the session to CD, which might take a few minutes to complete. The CD will automatically eject when completed. Remove the CD from the drive (unless you want to leave it in), then press Return again to close the CD drawer and shut the computer down - close the CD drawer manually if you're using a laptop.


I hope that's all clear enough. :)

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 10:55 AM

Awesome Directions! Thank You!
I did get a message that says
ERROR MESSAGE:
Cannot write to CD. 
In the same message box I'm offered these choices.
Do I choose BLANK CD-R or UPGRADE CD-R?
Wait to hear back from you Please.
Sincerely, Raphael

PS: I assume this might mean there isn't space on the CD-R I have already? I do not know how much space is left on it? and it's in the computer at this time.


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Posted 05 September 2017 - 11:03 AM

Have you already saved sessions on this CD? If so, then it has likely run out of space.

If you have a blank CD-R, I suggest selecting that option, and using another CD-R. That would be the easiest thing to do.

Alternatively, start again, and install Puppy to USB.

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/634831/a-puppy-linux-installation-video/

Edited by Al1000, 05 September 2017 - 11:16 AM.
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Posted 05 September 2017 - 11:48 AM

THANK YOU!!!

If i use another New CD-R will everything be on that one CD-R or will I somehow have to use two (2) CD-R's?
i don't think it shut down correctly? It's been stuck on Loading folder 2017-08-12-14-56 from CD/DVD. I hit Enter once and Now it said Done and Loading folder 2017-07-07-14-09 from CD/DVD..Seems like it's taking too much time!? What should I do? Should I do?

 

I did not choose Upgrade CD-R I don't think..I think I chose new CD-R!!? Now it says Loading the Puppy_slacko64_6.3.0.sfs' main file >copying to ram.

It didn't do anything when I put in the new CD-R
Tx, Raphael

PS: What size Flashbar should I use if I need to start over? and I hope I don't have to...
I'll need the correct links if I do have to start over.


Edited by DadaMan, 05 September 2017 - 12:01 PM.


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Posted 05 September 2017 - 11:50 AM

Have you already saved sessions on this CD? If so, then it has likely run out of space.

If you have a blank CD-R, I suggest selecting that option, and using another CD-R. That would be the easiest thing to do.

Alternatively, start again, and install Puppy to USB.

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/634831/a-puppy-linux-installation-video/

Oh, yah.

 

A USB will be faster to save, quicker-loading, and more convenient than a CD. A 'frugal' install to HDD will be faster still; and from personal experience, Puppy simply screams when running from an SSD....

 

Stratosphere, here we come..!!  :lol:

 

 

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Edited by Mike_Walsh, 05 September 2017 - 11:51 AM.

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 12:14 PM

Have you already saved sessions on this CD? If so, then it has likely run out of space.

If you have a blank CD-R, I suggest selecting that option, and using another CD-R. That would be the easiest thing to do.

Alternatively, start again, and install Puppy to USB.

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/634831/a-puppy-linux-installation-video/

Now it's lost the Internet connection and Google Chrome is not there only Mozzilla. In the Log out window WHAT choice should I make when I get back? headed to see to a dental specialist..
HELP!!!

Thanks again...but I think I messed things up! :inlove: 
Cheers, Raphael






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