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#1 mystic12

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Posted 21 August 2017 - 04:27 PM

Hey guys so this HP machine has problems booting I tried recovery but did not work so I am trying to install from disk. At windows Setup screen I am seeing many partitions as the screenshot here shows:

 

http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr298/mikehende/windows%208_zpslzefn3fa.png

 

I am getting the error message when I select any of the partitions showing except for the last one, the Drive 2 Partition 2: Datadrive 2.

 

First please tell me what I should do with all of those partitions and secondly should I install on that last option the Datadrive 2 please?



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Posted 21 August 2017 - 04:49 PM

It looks like you have two disks and Windows is installed to Drive 2 because of the MSR. What's on the 2TB partiiton. It looks as if drive 0 is actually 3TB and the drive was formatted MBR and not GPT. That is why you have 700+MB of unallocated space.



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Posted 21 August 2017 - 04:51 PM

So I should go ahead and install on the last option DATADrive2?



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Posted 21 August 2017 - 05:08 PM

What is the model number of the HP. With the side pane open you see 3 physical drives, correct?

 

From looking at the partitions, most are all free space and it looks like there are actually 3 disks. This is what I would do if no data is required on any of the disks

 

Find out if the computer has UEFI firmware. If it does make sure the settings in UEFI are not set to Legacy or CSM boot.

 

If UEFI then delete partition 2  on disk 0. Install Windows to the unallocated space of disk 0. Windows will automatically partition and format the unallocated space but be sure to delete the MSR partition on disk 2 first.

 

If the computer is not UEFI and has a legacy BIOS delete partition 1 on disk 1 and install to the unallocated space but be sure to delete the MSR partition on disk 2 first. Later you can format disk 0 as a GPT disk and regain the full 3 TB and use it for DATA. 

 

Leave Disk 2 partition 2 alone and use it for DATA\

 

Edit: Tap F9 at boot. You should get this image if UEFI.

 

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Edited by JohnC_21, 21 August 2017 - 05:15 PM.


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Posted 21 August 2017 - 05:19 PM

I got to sign off for today so can resume in the morning. Yes it has 3 HDD's, Model is Hp Envy Desktop with i7.



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Posted 21 August 2017 - 05:24 PM

I would bet that is UEFI then. Tapping Esc at boot would let you get the main menu to access the various options. 



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Posted 21 August 2017 - 05:29 PM

Yes it's UEFI with same screen as yours [thanks], so in the morning I will follow these instructions correct?

 

If UEFI then delete partition 2  on disk 0. Install Windows to the unallocated space of disk 0. Windows will automatically partition and format the unallocated space but be sure to delete the MSR partition on disk 2 first.



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Posted 21 August 2017 - 05:33 PM

Yes, but make sure you do not have Legacy Boot or CSM boot enabled in the UEFI settings. That would prevent the full amount of usable disk space on the drive as MBR can only access the first 2TB of disk space and not more. That is why there is 750GB of unallocated space on the disk.

 

You can use this guide for the clean install.

 

https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-clean-install-windows-8-or-8-1-2626254

 

Edit: It looks like you got hit with the Photobucket issue. Photobucket does not allow linking to third party sites. Now all you get from your link is the Photobucket generic image.

 

Screen_Shot_2017-07-03_at_12.17.01_PM.pn


Edited by JohnC_21, 21 August 2017 - 05:37 PM.


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Posted 21 August 2017 - 05:36 PM

Ok, last question for now please, I will be installing the same win8.1 Pro 64 bit software so I won;t need to have a product key on hand, is this right?



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Posted 21 August 2017 - 05:39 PM

If the computer came pre-installed with 8.1 Pro then just click next when it asks for a key. If you have problems you can still pull the key from firmware with a live linux disk.

 

Edit: Windows 8 should automatically convert the unallocated space to a GPT disk  but you can make sure by doing the following commands.

At the screen where you are asked to select Language press Shift + F10. At the command prompt type

 

diskpart

list disk

select disk 0     This should be the 3TB disk

clean                Deletes all partitions on disk 0

convert GPT

exit 

exit

 

continue with the install. Pick the unallocated space on disk 0 to install. 


Edited by JohnC_21, 21 August 2017 - 05:49 PM.


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Posted 22 August 2017 - 08:01 AM

Hey John, ready to start on this but I am not getting into the bios to check on the UEFI settings. Taking these instructions from google:

 

Wait at least 10 seconds with the laptop off. 3. Press the Power button and then immediately press the ESC key on the upper left of your keyboard, about once per second. You will soon see a Recovery screen menu that instructs you to press the F10 button to go directly to your BIOS menu.

 

When I press the ESC key it does not take me to the F10 option but rather redirects back to the blue Hard Disk Error window.



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Posted 22 August 2017 - 08:25 AM

Try Tapping F10 on a cold boot instead of going to the Esc key first.



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Posted 22 August 2017 - 08:29 AM

Doesn;t work.



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Posted 22 August 2017 - 08:39 AM

Tap Esc and select Diagnostics. Does it indicate which disk is bad? If not then pull the power to the drives and tap F10 at boot to access your UEFI settings. With all drives disconnected you shouldn't get that drive error.



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Posted 22 August 2017 - 08:44 AM

I had run the diagnostics yesterday selecting all drives, it passed. Pulled the SATA power cord from all drives but still no option to access UEFI settings.






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