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MOBO and CPU Suggestions For New Build


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#1 HyperHenry

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 10:32 AM

My grandparents have offered to have a new computer built for me for my birthday with an $800 budget. I plan to keeps my RAM (16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 664MHz (11-11-11-28), my SSD and hard drives. I have a 1023MB NVIDIA GeForce GT 610 GPU that works well but will replace if you think I should. I'm not a heavy gamer. I use my Wii for that. It will be running a couple video making software, Photoshop Essentials, and other photo editors. Other than that I use it to watch videos, music and watching live streams a couple times a week. I won't be building it myself except adding the parts I'm saving just looking for advise on what to order for it.



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Posted 14 August 2017 - 10:38 AM

As your demands are not very high, I'd say AthlonX4 870 + FM2+ motherboard would be just fine.

For more power, FX-8320e/FX-8320/FX-8350 depending on price + AM3+ motherboard.

Edited by Drillingmachine, 14 August 2017 - 10:39 AM.


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 10:54 AM

Alas, sticking with DDR3 means choosing something partially outdated before you even order the parts, just to make use of the DDR3. My advice: Keep that rig semi-complete as a backup, and build a new R5-1600 based rig, B350 mainboard, $60 case of your chosing, reputable 600 watt PSU, $100 for 16 GB of DDR4-3200 MHz ram, etc...; if you intend to game at all, add a GTX1050; if not, you can cannibalize your old GPU, and choose when/if to upgrade it later if you ever feel inclined to play a level of Battlefield 1! You can temporarily borrow the hard drives, opticals, etc, to meet budgetary constraints, if needed, and replace with SSD and/or M.2 NVME drive later....

 

If determined to build slightly slower rig to make use of existing DDR3 RAM, find a Z97 and a 4790K or so...many folks would be upgrading from these soon, but they are more than functional for 99% of most folks...


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 11:07 AM

Used LGA1150 or even LGA1155 sets are also alternatives. But prices may be high as many want quad core CPU to replace dual core. Also motherboard availability is very poor for LGA1155. So that really depends on prices.



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Posted 14 August 2017 - 11:07 AM

Alas, sticking with DDR3 means choosing something partially outdated before you even order the parts, just to make use of the DDR3. My advice: Keep that rig semi-complete as a backup, and build a new R5-1600 based rig, B350 mainboard, $60 case of your chosing, reputable 600 watt PSU, $100 for 16 GB of DDR4-3200 MHz ram, etc...; if you intend to game at all, add a GTX1050; if not, you can cannibalize your old GPU, and choose when/if to upgrade it later if you ever feel inclined to play a level of Battlefield 1! You can temporarily borrow the hard drives, opticals, etc, to meet budgetary constraints, if needed, and replace with SSD and/or M.2 NVME drive later....

 

If determined to build slightly slower rig to make use of existing DDR3 RAM, find a Z97 and a 4790K or so...many folks would be upgrading from these soon, but they are more than functional for 99% of most folks...

 

Yes, looking at motherboards I am seeing what you mean. Everything new has DDR 4. I was trying to go for a better mobo and processor but as Drilling machine pointed out I don't really need an expensive CPU so maybe I can find something where I can spend an extra $200 for DDR4 RAM.



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Posted 14 August 2017 - 11:07 AM

If R5-1600 is too expensive, even the R5-1500 would likely be faster at potential video editing, etc., than older semi-6-8 core designs whose 'semi-cores' share FPU units, and perform more inline with competing dual cores at many tasks.....


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 11:11 AM

(you could also start at a pair of 4GB sticks, and add another pair of 8 GB or 16 GB sticks later, when budget permits...; just thoughts to get the basic rig running, room to wasily add more RAM later, etc...)

 

Good luck whichever way you ultimately choose...


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 11:16 AM

Because one firm (five letters, begins with A, did not cause alone but is one most to blame) caused memory shortage, right now DDR prices are sky high. If you buy DDR4, it's good idea to buy less capacity until prices come down.


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 11:21 AM

Would you recommend Intel or AMD. I have more experience with AMD.



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Posted 14 August 2017 - 11:37 AM

Would you recommend Intel or AMD. I have more experience with AMD.

 

That kind on comment is like declaring another AMD vs Intel war.

 

You are talking about used parts +DDR3 with what budget? Or new parts + DDR4 with $800 budget?



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Posted 14 August 2017 - 11:41 AM

That would be new. So far all the AMD mobos I've found only support DDR3.



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Posted 14 August 2017 - 12:10 PM

That would be new. So far all the AMD mobos I've found only support DDR3.

 

Err what? All Ryzen motherboards support only DDR4...

 

Something like this:

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9WTPr7
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9WTPr7/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($169.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350M-A/CSM Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($71.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (1 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Case: HEC - Voyager ATX Mid Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On - iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer  ($15.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit  ($102.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $505.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-14 13:07 EDT-0400

 

CPU is "only" 4-core, 6-core is "only" $30 more. Your choice. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mV98TW/amd-ryzen-5-1600-32ghz-6-core-processor-yd1600bbaebox

Motherboard is OK

I assume you are fine with GT 610? If not, let's look something better.

Memory prices are so high that I would buy cheapest possible now and upgrade later. Don't know if you need 16GB

Case is cheapest, you may pick any micro ATX or ATX case that you like

PSU depends on graphic card, so not included yet

Optical drive is cheap basic stuff

OS is Windows 10 in case you need it

 

Plenty of choices available.



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Posted 14 August 2017 - 12:33 PM

How does this setup look to you?

 

Gigabyte AB350M Gaming 3
AMD Ryzen 1 1700 8-core 3.7 GHz
16 GB DDR4 2400 (Name brand not specified)
600W Solid Gear - Power Supply (name brand not specified)
NZXT Gaming Mid Tower Case

$695. I probably will want to buy a better CPU fan though.

 

This price includes assembly and shipping. It looks like we were shopping at the same time. I did forget an optical drive. That's a must. I have a full version of Windows 8.1 already. I can just upgrade it for free if I decide to.


Edited by HyperHenry, 14 August 2017 - 12:39 PM.


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 12:46 PM

Looks OK but CPU is bit overkill for light use.

 

But then this "600W Solid Gear - Power Supply (name brand not specified)" is crap. You'll want something better quality.



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Posted 14 August 2017 - 12:49 PM

Looks OK but CPU is bit overkill for light use.

 

But then this "600W Solid Gear - Power Supply (name brand not specified)" is crap. You'll want something better quality.

I just sent them an email asking what brand name they use for their power supplies and RAM. See what they say. The CPU was recommended for video and music editing. The rendering aspect of it is a bit intense I guess. I currently have an AMD FX-6300  Vishera 32nm Technology.

 

These are my specs from a Speccy report.

 

CPU
            AMD FX-6300    16 °C
            Vishera 32nm Technology
        RAM
            16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 664MHz (11-11-11-28)
        Motherboard
            ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. M5A97 LE R2.0 (Socket 942)    28 °C
        Graphics
            Generic Non-PnP Monitor (1600x1200@60Hz)
            1023MB NVIDIA GeForce GT 610 (PNY)    37 °C
        Storage
            931GB Seagate ST1000DM003-1CH162 (SATA)    29 °C
            111GB Crucial_CT120M500SSD1 (SSD)    29 °C
            3726GB Seagate Backup+ Desk SCSI Disk Device (USB (SATA))    44 °C
        Optical Drives
            HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH24NSB0
        Audio
            USB Audio Device


Edited by HyperHenry, 14 August 2017 - 12:53 PM.





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