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can't boot from usb - so using 'UNetbootin'


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#1 computerbroken

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 02:21 AM

basic overview of problem:
 
**goal:** trying to install a new linux os (any working one is fine)
**key problem:** the laptop does not boot from usb 
 
**laptop** = lenovo u310 (none of the reset / bios methods work)
**os** = mint 18.1 (completely dysfunctional, crashes and freeze randomly like a min after booting the os)
 
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on 'GNU GRUB' version 2.02~'
 
it has the option 'UNetbootin'
 
when i select this and press enter
 
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it shows a black screen, black screen says:
 
> running early hook [udev]
>starting version 232
 
other things
 
then
 
>mounting 'dev/disk/by-label/' to 'run/miso/bootmnt'
 
then stuff
 
> ERROR: '/deve/disk/by-label/' device did not show up after 30 secondds...'
 
> Falling back to interactive prompt
>You can try to fix the problem manually, log out when you are finished
 
> sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
 
>[rootfs ]#
 
 
where i can type something
 
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im very new to linux so please explain what should be done and why? to solve this 

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 02:26 AM

Someone HERE, has had the same problem.....

 

Read it with a fresh set of eyes...

 

Hope it helps.


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Posted 11 August 2017 - 02:46 AM

none of those worked, and it's not specific to this new unetbootin problem



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Posted 11 August 2017 - 08:26 AM

Hi,

When you say Mint 18.1 "crashes and freeze randomly like a min after booting the os," how are you booting the OS?

Do you mean it crashes etc like a min after booting to the desktop?

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 03:43 PM

Hi,

When you say Mint 18.1 "crashes and freeze randomly like a min after booting the os," how are you booting the OS?

Do you mean it crashes etc like a min after booting to the desktop?

 

 

I think that he already has Mint 18.1 installed and it doesn't work so he wants to install a different OS.


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Posted 11 August 2017 - 04:36 PM

'how are you booting the OS?'

 

just regular

'Do you mean it crashes etc like a min after booting to the desktop?' 

 

like whne its on the desktop it crashes freezes



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Posted 11 August 2017 - 06:28 PM

Which Version lenovo u310 do you have?

 

Which OS are you running now, and does it run well?

 

Can you give us some Specs from within Linux?

 

1. Open Terminal, Ctrl+alt+T will bring up Terminal, if it doesn't just Click on Menu and you will see the Terminal under “System” in Mint.  Or in Ubuntu's- Open Launcher and Type Terminal.

 
2. Copy Paste this Command into Terminal and Hit Enter.
inxi -Fz
 
3. Then Click “Edit” in upper Left of Terminal > “Select All” > then “Edit” again > Click “Copy” > Then in your Post, Click the "Code" Box at Top Middle of your Post, which looks like this “< >” and just Ctrl+V Pasting into the Code Box, or, just into the Body your next Post will be fine also.

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 07:27 AM

If Mint 18.1 is already installed, how did you install it?

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 11:27 AM

 

basic overview of problem:
 
**goal:** trying to install a new linux os (any working one is fine)
Without knowing any more information, I would revert to 17.1 or 17.2
 
**key problem:** the laptop does not boot from usb 
Do you have a Optical Drive?
 
**laptop** = lenovo u310 (none of the reset / bios methods work)
Which Version of u310 please?
 
**os** = mint 18.1 (completely dysfunctional, crashes and freeze randomly like a min after booting the os)
Refer to Al's Quote above for this one.  
 
Is 18.1 Actually Installed, or were you running off of a USB or DVD when it crashed? and again: "how did you install it?"

Replies in RED above^^^^^

 

Sounds like a Graphics issue ATM, without knowing more.


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Posted 12 August 2017 - 06:45 PM

Helpers please note the OP has threads open on several forums about this issue.

 

http://www.techsupportforum.com/forums/f64/cant-boot-from-usb-so-using-unetbootin-1205657.html

 

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-laptop-and-netbook-25/could-you-analyse-this-%27unetbootin%27-error-can%27t-boot-from-usb-so-using-%27unetbootin%27-4175611742/

 

https://askubuntu.com/questions/945239/could-you-analyse-this-unetbootin-error-cant-boot-from-usb-so-using-une

 

I suggest you stick to one forum when asking for help as it avoids conflicting and confusing advice.



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Posted 13 August 2017 - 05:18 AM

 

+1! :thumbup2:

 

If one has posts for assistance scattered all over the Internet, there'll be a different 'solution' on each, so best to stick with one site or the other. :)

 

Seeing that the Lenovo has the 3rd gen Intel Core CPU (due to Intel 4000 graphics), the system likely has UEFI. Meaning that creating a bootable USB stick with Rufus the best solution. it's capable of handling UEFI machines well. 

 

https://rufus.akeo.ie/

 

As shown in picture, preset to GPT partition scheme for UEFI, all one has to do is select their ISO image once opened & click Start, in 2-3 minutes will be finished. You'll either need to ensure that your computer boots to the USB stick first in the UEFI, or know which key to press to select which option to boot from. :)

 

Since I don't use Unetbootin, cannot comment on how to run it, prefer either Rufus (linked above) or Universal USB Installer, both has served me well for years. :thumbup2:

 

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 03:56 PM

does rufus boot by itself?

 

like unetbottin does, but this unetbot thing doesnt seem updated and seems buggy

 

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'computer boots to the USB stick first in the UEFI, or know which key to press to select which option to boot from'

 

it was mentioned in the OP that:

 

**key problem:** the laptop does not boot from usb 

 

 

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and there's no way around this problem since novemeber or whenever it's been...



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Posted 18 August 2017 - 04:01 PM

'If Mint 18.1 is already installed, how did you install it?'

 

* ubuntu was on the laptop before this

 

* had the same type of problem, was unsolvable, and nobody knew

 

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* there was a person that had 1-2 years of linux experience

 

* there's something call the 'mok manager' which appears randomly at startup (but hasn't happen anymore, but i dont really turn this thing on anymore as well..)

 

* so mok manager appeared more consistently during this time and the person used their brain to navigate this thing and was able to boot from usb

 

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nobody on the web seems to know what the 'mok manager' is or how to get it to appear again

 

other than this, i have no idea how to fix this anymore

 

 

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before ubuntu, there was win10 and everythign was fine there

 

 

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it is still pretty unclear what is initally casuing the problem with seemingly most lenovo laptops

 

**key cause:** appears to be these versions of ubuntu, and mint is dervied (coming from) this version of ubuntu)


Edited by computerbroken, 18 August 2017 - 04:03 PM.


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Posted 18 August 2017 - 04:09 PM

Which Version of u310 please?

 

i dont understanad this, i thought u310 was the model and that's it

 

it's this thing -- https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-13-3-Inch-Touchscreen-Ultrabook-Graphite/dp/B00ATANWLK

 

they're all pretty much the same i think....

 

 

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Without knowing any more information, I would revert to 17.1 or 17.2

 

i think 18.1 was installed on here.....

 

but none of this solves the cant boot from usb problem and that's likely the only things that matters

 

cos need a completely diff os

 

 

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there's no optical drive

 

i dunno if having one would solve anything, dunno if the laptop would boot into optical drive


Edited by computerbroken, 18 August 2017 - 04:13 PM.


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Posted 18 August 2017 - 04:37 PM

does rufus boot by itself?

 

like unetbottin does, but this unetbot thing doesnt seem updated and seems buggy

 

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'computer boots to the USB stick first in the UEFI, or know which key to press to select which option to boot from'

 

it was mentioned in the OP that:

 

**key problem:** the laptop does not boot from usb 

 

 

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and there's no way around this problem since novemeber or whenever it's been...

 

 

No Rufus needs an ISO to install into a USB, Rufus is not an operating system, it can not boot by itself.

 

Unebootin is very good and I use it all the time, as do many other people. It is currently being maintained.


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