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#1 danielocdh

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Posted 29 July 2017 - 04:56 PM

I have this problem where after login in my user sometimes I get a long delay before I'm able to run anything, everything I try to start just runs after this delay has passed(folders/programs on desktop/start menu).
This delay doesn't happen every time, I think it happens like 3 out of 4 times or so.
Sometimes I'm fast enough to open something right before the delay starts, but I only have like 2 or 3 seconds to do it.
 
My system info:
Windows 10 Pro x64 english language, original license
Ryzen 7 1800X, 64gb ram, GTX 1080ti
 
 
Things I already tried:
windows reinstall with other media (1st time was dvd, I used usb this time, downloaded and verified hash of images both times)
Clean Boot
Empty prefetch folder on safe mode
Older/newer nvidia drivers
Different antivirus, (I was using avast before and kaspersky now)
sfc /scannow
DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth
Get-AppXPackage -AllUsers | Foreach {Add-AppxPackage -DisableDevelopmentMode -Register "$($_.InstallLocation)\AppXManifest.xml"}
 

 

I'm no expert but I ran windows performance analyzer and it showed UI Delays->ShellExperienceHost.exe->MsgCheck Delay as what I believe to be the culprit, I attach the image.

 

Any ideas on what to check next to find the cause of the issue?

Thanks

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Posted 30 July 2017 - 06:09 AM

Are you saying that there was no improvement with a Clean Boot?  If there was an improvement with a Clean Boot it calls for different troubleshooting.

 

If it didn't improve with Clean Boot, here's some other suggestions (I left the DISM in because it mentions SFC.EXE at the end of that step):

Be sure to backup your stuff if you don't want to take the chance of losing it.:

1 - Startup Repair.  Run it 3 times, rebooting in between tries.

2 - System Restore to a point before this started happening.

3 - DISM/SFC repair (DISM doesn't work with W7, although SFC does)  - doesn't work if you're not able to boot to Windows (let me know and I'll post a way to do it from Startup Repair)
    

Then please run the following DISM commands to see if there's any problems with the system (from an elevated (Run as administrator) Command Prompt).  Press Enter after typing it:
   
Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth

    FYI - I have repaired systems using the last command even though problems weren't found with the first 2 - so I suggest running them all.

    From this article: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh824869.aspx

    You can also run sfc.exe /scannow from an elevated (Run as administrator) Command Prompt to check for further corruption. Include the CBS log (located at C:\Windows\Logs\CBS\CBS.log) if you'd like to have a Windows Update expert check it (I don't check them because I can't read them)


4 - RESET using the "Keep My Files" option (W8 calls this a REFRESH; W7 and earlier doesn't have this function)

5 - Repair install of the OS (Thanks to FreeBooter!):
   

"How To Perform a Repair Installation For Windows 8, 8.1 and 10"
    https://www.winhelp.us/non-destructive-reinstall-of-windows-8-and-8-1.html

    "How to Do a Repair Install to Fix Windows 7"
    http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/3413-repair-install.html

    "How To Perform a Repair Installation For Vista"
    http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/88236-repair-install-vista.html

    "Non-destructive reinstall of Windows XP"
    https://www.winhelp.us/non-destructive-reinstall-of-windows-xp.html


6 - RESET using the "Remove Everything" option (W8 calls this a RESET; W7 and earlier doesn't have this function)

If using W7 or earlier, this can be accomplished by resetting the system by use of the recovery partition/recovery disks/recovery drive.
If you don't have them, you can usually order them from the OEM manufacturer of your system ( US points of contact here:  http://www.carrona.org/recdisc.html )

7 - Wipe and reinstall from the Recovery Partition (if so equipped)

8 - Wipe and reinstall from Recovery Media - to include deleting all partitions.
If you don't have them, you can usually order them from the OEM manufacturer of your system ( US points of contact here:  http://www.carrona.org/recdisc.html )
  You can also download W7/8.1/10 from Microsoft starting on this page:  https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/
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Posted 30 July 2017 - 08:48 PM

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Thanks for answering.
Correct, it didn't change with clean boot.
A repair install of the OS fixed the issue, so thank you.

I don't want to sound ungrateful but I'm kinda disappointed I couldn't track the issue and had to use a generic fix instead (just windows 10 things I guess).

Thinking back I'm sure that something during windows debloating was the reason of the problem. So I'll just create system restore points when removing crap out of windows 10 and will report back if I ever find the reason of my issue.

Thanks again

Edited by danielocdh, 30 July 2017 - 08:49 PM.


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Posted 31 July 2017 - 08:23 AM

Sorry to hear that you're disappointed in not knowing "why" it happened.

There are other reports, tests, and procedures that we could have tried and maybe they could have told us more. 

But more often then not, we'll end up spending weeks pouring over different reports only to find out that we don't know anything more of significance (and still have to resort to the general fixes).

 

In your case, I made a judgement call to suggest the general fixes up front.

If they'd have failed to fix things, or you stated that you didn't want to do the steps beyond DISM, then I'd have suggested alternate things until I ran out of ideas.

 

FYI - it's most likely that this was a Windows problem, as a Clean Boot didn't fix the problems.
This could also have been a hardware/compatibility issue - but in those cases a repair install won't usually fix it.

 

Good luck!


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