Posted 13 September 2006 - 11:50 PM
hey guys, I've never started my own topic but this has really been weighing on me and I need honest opinions from others who are in no way involved.
What happened: A friend of my daughters from High School (17 yr's old) was at a party (with alcohol involved) over summer vacation with some other friends (my daughter wasn't there that night thankfully but I have no clue why. lol) It wasn't their party and they didn't get served because the party people were "responsible" adults. After being turned away for alcohol they were just sitting there at a camp fire talking and whatever teens do. While they were gabbing they heard a women screaming for help, they had heard some arguing etc earlier but didn't really pay attention until they heard her help calls. They walked over to see what was up and they saw a young man, 26 pushing his girlfriend around and hitting her etc. The couple had a male friend camping with them who wasn't doing anything about the situation and also three young children) My daughters friend (I'll call him Jim) being the ever the gentleman stepped in and told the man to stop hitting her, the man got loud and they ended up scraping with Jim (big kid) ending up on top holding the man down. The man gave up and said he'd stop etc. Saying it wouldn't happen again, Jim got up and began walking away with his friends, he got about 20 yards from the campsite when he was tackled by the friend of the couple and struck in the back of the head with a bar (later determined to be horse-shoe pit iron bar) by the woman beater and he didn't remember anything after that until he woke in the hospital. He wasn't cared for at our local hospital because they weren't equipped so he was immediately delivered to the nearest large hospital. He almost died, three of his doctors there told him he shouldn't have survived, one even saying he "should be an organ donor right now." His head was hit sooo hard that they couldn't tell if he was hit on the side of the head and the pressure caused the top of his skull to crack open or vice versa.
Amazingly the cops called to investigate believed the still intoxicated woman beater and his drunken friend over the teen witnesses who were there when the men said that at least 14 teens accosted he and his family and he was "DEFENDING" himself. They somehow ended up arresting the woman who was beaten and that's all that happened. The police allowed the still drunk man to drive his kids home from the campsite and he was never questioned about the incident again.
Meanwhile Jim recovering, made several attempts along with his family to have this man arrested for at least assult received no justice. None at all. Picture it, a man almosts kills you under these circumstances and your told it was self defense? Meanwhile the family is hearing that the woman beater guy lives right up the street from them and is now carrying a gun for PROTECTION.
Next part: About a month later Jim is at the towns fourth of July celebration (not worried about the woman beater cause he's now in jail for car theft) and he sees the man that tackled him allowing the woman beater to hit and almost kill him. He freaks out and kicks the crap out of this guy, royally.
Next part: Jim is IN JAIL awaiting his pre trial and sentencing which should happen at the beginning of next month. He's being charged with who knows what but because he kicked the man, his boots are being considered a dangerous weapon. He isn't allowed to go to the "work camp" which would enable him to go to school because the WOMAN BEATER (turns out he had other warrants in other states for assaults and attempted murder) is currently there and they fear that big bad Jim may attack him as well.
What's your opinion about this guys? Was Jim wrong for taking matters into his own hands? If so what should his punishment be? I dont agree with violence, I don't think that it is ever the ANSWER, however, I can't bring myself to say that Jim was wrong either, clearly these men deserved some sort of punishment. I'm lost here, I dont know what to think. A person who has been sooooo unfairly treated deserves some type of justice, dont they?