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New install of Win 7 Win updates Trash it.


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#1 Manshead

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Posted 04 July 2017 - 01:28 PM

I have installed win 7 on my comp four times Each time everything goes well until I install win updates. They download and install but on the second boot windows freezes at Starting Windows. I have tested the new HD and it passed on the long test.

Hope someone has some ideas.


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Posted 04 July 2017 - 02:06 PM

Set to NEVER CHECK FOR UPDATES and Reboot.

 

Then Download and install these Updates in this order:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/3177467/servicing-stack-update-for-windows-7-sp1-and-windows-server-2008-r2-sp

This one will appear to stall, just let it keep running until it finishes.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/3172605/july-2016-update-rollup-for-windows-7-sp1-and-windows-server-2008-r2-s

 

Some of them are already installed now so they will fail but you will still be able to get what you need.  Reset your Updates to what ever you like, restart computer and start checking for updates.  I usually takes Four Rounds to get them all.


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Posted 04 July 2017 - 03:38 PM

  • I think I need to reinstall win 7 first as I cannot access windows. Will these work on a clean installation.
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Posted 05 July 2017 - 11:00 AM

 

  • I think I need to reinstall win 7 first as I cannot access windows. Will these work on a clean installation.

Yes, it is for exactly that!  

 

Have you tested your Hard Drive for Errors?


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Posted 06 July 2017 - 01:55 AM

Thank you pcpunk your suggestions worked perfectly. Yes I had checked the HDD. Just wondered what those two updates actually do.

Once again thanks.


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Posted 06 July 2017 - 06:09 PM

So all your Updates came through like I explained yes?  The first round takes quite a long time and then the other 4 take far less, is that the way it panned out?

 

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Posted 07 July 2017 - 02:54 AM

Thanks for your reply Walterboyd. I had tried a restore but it said windows files were corrupted. I used pcpunks method and the problem is now resolved 


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Posted 07 July 2017 - 04:08 PM

Another score for the punk!


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Posted 11 July 2017 - 07:00 PM

This is a known situation for the Win 7 Update mechanism.  Simply disabling the Windows Update service is what I would advise...it's not needed to install the rollups that are now the standard way of updating Win 7.

 

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 07:33 PM

I am gonna agree to disagree here and say it is a bad idea to turn off Windows Updates.

 

You have the option to change the settings to Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them.

 

At the least, it is a visual reminder that Windows Updates (especially security updates) are available.

 

A lot of people thought they were smarter than Microsoft when they failed to install the SMBv1 security patch that was released in March.

 

Two months later, WannaCry devastated most of those systems. It was reported that Windows 7 was the most infected of all versions (after everyone thought it would be XP).

 

If you do frequent disk images and daily backups of your volatile (personal) data, you might be able to recover from a WannaCry-like infection.

 

And there will be more coming.

 

Best thing (IMO) is to get Windows Updates working...I run Windows 7 and have no issues.

 

See this tutorial on resetting Windows Updates in Windows 7 -

 

https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/91738-windows-update-reset.html

 

Up to you if you want to try beating the train to the crossing.

 

Good luck.


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Posted 11 July 2017 - 09:48 PM

I am gonna agree to disagree here and say it is a bad idea to turn off Windows Updates.

Agreed, and, there is nothing wrong, the OP has a fine working windows 7 now, up to date and Updates will come as needed.


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Posted 12 July 2017 - 12:43 PM

I am curious...it's nice to know that members don't have to agree on steps to resolve problems...but I don't see a single reason for running Windows Update on a Win 7 computer.  There are no updates that are not available for download/installation without using Windows Update.

 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/973135/how-to-download-a-windows-update-manually

 

Whatever suits the user and avoids the problems...is what I suggest.

 

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Posted 12 July 2017 - 07:49 PM

I am curious...it's nice to know that members don't have to agree on steps to resolve problems...but I don't see a single reason for running Windows Update on a Win 7 computer.  There are no updates that are not available for download/installation without using Windows Update.

Even though updates are available for download, it requires that the user be proactive to go to the Microsoft Catalog update site, select the updates, manually download and then manually install them.

 

That may work well for experienced users, if it's followed on a monthly basis.

 

As we saw from WannaCry, that didn't work out too well. Patches for the SMBv1 flaw that were out for two months didn't fail...they were not installed.

 

I would say the likelyhood of the average home user being proactive in doing a manual update process is even less.

 

Automatic updates solve that.

 

I consider Windows Updates a part of my security layer.

 

I don't manually update my AV and AM software.

 

My question would be "Why would you not use Windows Update?"



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Posted 13 July 2017 - 06:58 AM

Because I consider it to be flawed, looking at the number of issues reported and experienced by members for over a year now.

 

Just my opinion, can be easily researched by looking at historical topics...and I ike to avoid landmines, as opposed to calling in the bomb squad to remove such :).

 

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Posted 13 July 2017 - 03:10 PM

Because I consider it to be flawed, looking at the number of issues reported and experienced by members for over a year now.

 

Just my opinion, can be easily researched by looking at historical topics...and I ike to avoid landmines, as opposed to calling in the bomb squad to remove such :).

 

Louis

I am familiar with the complaints...for Windows 7, 8/8.1, and 10.

 

However, I personally have never experienced 99% of those, and the majority of the users I have worked with have not as well.

 

Consistent maintenance and keeping systems updated seems to help.

 

Avoiding landmines is the purpose of Windows Update.

 

Some landmines are self-planted.






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