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#1 superqaz

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Posted 01 July 2017 - 02:04 PM

hi

 

win 7 wont boot now , i need to "try again" by pressing 1, then it works

 

any ideas apprweciated

 

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Posted 01 July 2017 - 04:00 PM

Try doing a Startup Repair -

 

https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/681-startup-repair.html



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Posted 02 July 2017 - 02:44 AM

unfortunately no disc but may i explain as i think it may be drives connected wrong

 

when booting i get screen listing drives and positions on MB, system drive is on sata 0 [which is correct]. it tells me to strike F1, which starts windows ok

 

i disconnected the second drive for simplicity

 

in set up the cd drive boots first

 

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Posted 02 July 2017 - 04:09 AM

So in the BIOS, you would need to change the SATA drive to the #1 position.



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Posted 02 July 2017 - 04:49 AM

yes, but ive always understood that its good to set it as number one in case u need a bootable disc to work, so im a bit confused.

 

is this incorrect or is it not good setting to keep?

 

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Posted 02 July 2017 - 09:56 AM

Unless you need to boot from optical disc on a frequent basis there is really no point in changing your boot order such that the optical disc comes first.

 

One can always get into BIOS/UEFI during the boot process to switch boot order around when necessary, so I'd set it to whatever is the most convenient for your typical day-to-day needs.


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Posted 02 July 2017 - 10:09 AM

but will returning the boot order to that setting resolve the problem as above

 

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Posted 02 July 2017 - 10:19 AM

I don't know, but trying it to see is a very simple matter.  Some things can only be determined via trial and error.  I would expect that it would work, though.


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Posted 02 July 2017 - 02:48 PM

just corrected boot order , no difference. couple days back [same issue] i kept getting " cant find boot manager" i assumed it had corrected itself.. does this throw any light on it



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Posted 02 July 2017 - 04:23 PM

Yes, to me this suggests you are in the early stages of hard drive failure and/or the boot sector on the drive has become corrupted.

 

I'd suggest downloading SeaTools (and it works on drives not made by Seagate, too) and see what it tells you about the state of your hard drive.


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Posted 02 July 2017 - 09:32 PM

I agree with britechguy.


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Posted 03 July 2017 - 02:39 AM

does this make any difference to what u suggest: i caused the problem by removing and replacing with a dud, the cmos battery.

 

ive just read several accts of boot managers getting lost/broken fior lots of reasons

 

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Posted 03 July 2017 - 02:52 AM

does this make any difference to what u suggest: i caused the problem by removing and replacing with a dud, the cmos battery.

 

ive just read several accts of boot managers getting lost/broken fior lots of reasons

 

thanks

 

SeaTools will check the overall health of the drive.

 

I would follow @britechguy's suggestion.



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Posted 03 July 2017 - 08:43 AM

just finished the long test , passed ok,,,whats next:)

 

update: have found a win7 disc [not mine] and run a startup repair but to no avail.

do either of you know if the original install disc would have a better chance of doing a repair?

 

thanks


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Posted 04 July 2017 - 03:53 AM

would appreciate ant more help with this if anyone has the time. ive just tried making a new BCD and new Partition Boot Sector, still the same.

 

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