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Should I be worried about these errors in brand new Win10 laptop?


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#1 Eszy

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Posted 16 June 2017 - 09:57 AM

Hi guys! Just bought a new laptop and when I looked at the event log I saw there were 156 errors. Probably 75% of them are at the time I was starting the laptop for the first time, installing Win10, basically the first things you do with a new laptop. So I figured these errors might be there because Win10 wasn't properly set up yet.

 

The other errors are from the other 2 times I started the laptop, they are basically the same kind of errors I get on my current laptop (Win7). Sources are mostly DistributedCOM, AppModel-Runtime, Service Control Manager and User Device Registration (something about Windows Hello for Business???). 

 

Now my question is: should I be worried and return that laptop as fast as possible? Or are these normal errors?

 

(I asked customer service from where I got my laptop, but she couldn't help me because she wasn't a product specialist or something like that. Yay for customer service.)



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Posted 16 June 2017 - 10:01 AM

It is very difficult to give any sort of definitive answer without specific examples of the errors in question.  If you can copy and paste some of them or all of them and post that would be a great help.


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Posted 16 June 2017 - 10:07 AM

I say this in all sincerity: Stop looking in Event Manager. It causes the technological equivalent of hypochondria.

 

Is the system performing as it should? If so, you're fine.


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Posted 16 June 2017 - 10:13 AM

I say this in all sincerity: Stop looking in Event Manager. It causes the technological equivalent of hypochondria.

 

Is the system performing as it should? If so, you're fine.

 

Thank You.  This is always what I want to say, but don't generally.

 

I long ago learned that there are tons of "normal errors" that happen on a routine basis that are not indicative of any malfunction.

 

Your final sentence is my guiding philosophy, and a more eloquent expression of, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."


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Posted 16 June 2017 - 10:17 AM

It is very difficult to give any sort of definitive answer without specific examples of the errors in question.  If you can copy and paste some of them or all of them and post that would be a great help.

 

Some examples of the recurring ones:

 

Source: DistributedCOM (13 times last 24 hours)

Id: 10016 

 

Source: Service Control Manager (all three errors came up 2 times last 24 hours, so seem to happen whenever I start the laptop):

Id: 7000 (this error has to do with Kingsoft_WPS_UpdateService)

Id: 7009 (time-out 30000 seconds, also has to do with same Kingsoft stuff)

Id: 7000 (CldFlt-service can't be started because of error: request can't be supported)

 

Source: AppModel-Runtime

Id: 37 (App Container-profile failed with error 0x800700B7 because AppContainer-SID can't be registered)

Id: 37 (exact same thing as the one above)

Id: 37 (same as above)

Id: 69 (adjusting status of AppModel-runtime for the package microsoft.windowscommunicationsapps failed code 0x490 current status 0x0 preferred status 0x20)

Id: 69 (same error as the one above, but for Microsoft.Windows.Photos)

Id: 69 (same error as the two above, but for Microsoft.XboxGameOverlay)



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Posted 16 June 2017 - 10:20 AM

I say this in all sincerity: Stop looking in Event Manager. It causes the technological equivalent of hypochondria.

 

Is the system performing as it should? If so, you're fine.

 

I know, I know haha.. I'm not that worried about the errors that are the exact same as on my current laptop. It just surprised me a bit there were 156 errors on a brand new laptop. You kinda assume a brand new laptop wouldn't have any errors (or at least not 156). Just asking this question to find out if the system is performing as it should. Don't want to overlook some tiny warning that will cause some major trouble later when I can't return the laptop anymore ;) 



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Posted 16 June 2017 - 10:28 AM

 

I say this in all sincerity: Stop looking in Event Manager. It causes the technological equivalent of hypochondria.

 

Is the system performing as it should? If so, you're fine.

I agree too except for bad block errors on hard drives, pay close attention to those.



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Posted 16 June 2017 - 10:35 AM

 

I say this in all sincerity: Stop looking in Event Manager. It causes the technological equivalent of hypochondria.

 

Is the system performing as it should? If so, you're fine.

I agree too except for bad block errors on hard drives, pay close attention to those.

 

How do I recognize a bad block error on a hard drive?



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Posted 16 June 2017 - 04:15 PM

System event log will show.....wait for it.......BAD BLOCKS!!! LOL! Seriously it will show bad blocks and I just replace the drive and don't take chances. 9 out of 10 times I see bad blocks I just clone it to a new drive. Some people say it's not a good idea to clone a drive with bad blocks but I have done it many times. The biggest bummer is when it gets to 99% done and then fails the clone at 100% but it happens. Sometime have to run chkdsk before and/or after the clone but not usually.



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Posted 16 June 2017 - 04:19 PM

All disk cloning software I've ever used is automatically configured to skip bad blocks/sectors unless told otherwise.  This makes perfect sense since the OS itself stops using them as they are identified.

 

Of course, any time one does anything, cloning or otherwise, with a disk drive that's in bad health there is always the chance that it could go from "in bad health" to "dead" during the process.  It's never happened to me, but I know it can and has happened.  "You pays your money and you takes your chances!"


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Posted 16 June 2017 - 04:22 PM

Don't worry about bad block errors. Event Log is the LAST place that hd errors will appear. Please, follow my advice above and completely forget the event viewer exists. If you want to run maintenance on your hd, every six months or so you can run chkdsk /r on the drive(s). That will identify and repair hd problems.



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Posted 16 June 2017 - 04:22 PM

Don't worry about bad block errors. Event Log is the LAST place that hd errors will appear. Please, follow my advice above and completely forget the event viewer exists. If you want to run maintenance on your hd, every six months or so you can run chkdsk /r on the drive(s). That will identify and repair hd problems.

 

 

I say this in all sincerity: Stop looking in Event Manager. It causes the technological equivalent of hypochondria.

 

Is the system performing as it should? If so, you're fine.

 

Thank You.  This is always what I want to say, but don't generally.

 

I long ago learned that there are tons of "normal errors" that happen on a routine basis that are not indicative of any malfunction.

 

Your final sentence is my guiding philosophy, and a more eloquent expression of, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

 

 

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Posted 16 June 2017 - 04:26 PM

Thanks for all your comments about the bad blocks. I'd still like an opinion on the errors I mentioned.. Shoud I be worried about those and the massive list of errors while installing Windows? Or are all of these normal and can I ignore them?



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Posted 16 June 2017 - 04:40 PM

I'm not quite sure where the breakdown in communication is occurring, but let me give it one more shot :). FORGET WHAT YOU SAW / SEE IN THE EVENT LOG.



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Posted 16 June 2017 - 04:48 PM

I'm not quite sure where the breakdown in communication is occurring, but let me give it one more shot :). FORGET WHAT YOU SAW / SEE IN THE EVENT LOG.

 

Put as simply as possible, the answer to the questions:

 

     "Should I be worried about those and the massive list of errors while installing Windows? Or are all of these normal and can I ignore them?"

 

are, "No," and "Yes," respectively.


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