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#1 pcpunk

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 11:40 AM

I just started having issues while scrolling in Chrome on my Mate 18 Install.  It's like big waves every time I scroll, and is very slow?

 

Also, for some reason, can't get my inxi output to Paste into the post correctly?


chris@chris-HP-Compaq-nx7400-EN352UTR-ABA:~ > inxi -Fz System:    Host: chris-HP-Compaq-nx7400-EN352UTR-ABA Kernel: 3.13.0-37-generic x86_64 (64 bit)             Desktop: KDE 4.14.2 Distro: Linux Mint 17.1 Rebecca Machine:   System: Hewlett-Packard (portable) product: HP Compaq nx7400 (EN352UTR#ABA) version: F.08            Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 30A2 version: KBC Version 40.17            Bios: Hewlett-Packard version: 68YGU Ver. F.08 date: 10/23/2006 CPU:       Dual core Intel Core2 CPU T5500 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 vmx)             Clock Speeds: 1: 1000.00 MHz 2: 1000.00 MHz Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile 945GM/GMS 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller             X.Org: 1.15.1 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1280x800@60.0hz             GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945GM GLX Version: 1.4 Mesa 10.1.3 Audio:     Card: Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel            Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.13.0-37-generic Network:   Card-1: Broadcom BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX driver: b44             IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>            Card-2: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection driver: iwl3945             IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> Drives:    HDD Total Size: 368.1GB (23.0% used) 1: USB id: /dev/sda model: USB_Flash_Drive size: 32.0GB             2: id: /dev/sdb model: ST980825AS size: 80.0GB 3: USB id: /dev/sdc model: USB_Flash_Drive size: 256.1GB  Partition: ID: / size: 17G used: 8.9G (56%) fs: ext4 ID: /home size: 33G used: 16G (52%) fs: ext4                  ID: swap-1 size: 4.09GB used: 0.01GB (0%) fs: swap                                           RAID:      No RAID devices detected - /proc/mdstat and md_mod kernel raid module present                Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 65.0C mobo: 57.0C                                                             Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A                                                                Info:      Processes: 193 Uptime: 32 min Memory: 1866.4/3379.8MB Client: Shell inxi: 1.8.4              chris@chris-HP-Compaq-nx7400-EN352UTR-ABA:~ >                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          


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Posted 14 June 2017 - 08:55 AM

Hi pc,

I've only just noticed this topic.
 

Also, for some reason, can't get my inxi output to Paste into the post correctly?


Are you using Firefox with NoScript? If so, you would have to "allow" this website, or at least the relevant web page. If not, what browser are you using?
 

I just started having issues while scrolling in Chrome on my Mate 18 Install. It's like big waves every time I scroll, and is very slow?


Is the "intel" driver you are using a propriety driver, and if so, did you have the same problem when using the open source driver before installing the propriety driver? I'm wondering if the problem could be related to the driver being updated.

First thing I would try is using an older kernel (select Advanced Options in Grub boot menu). Any difference?

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 11:18 AM

Using Chrome Al

 

I never installed any specific drivers Al, this is just a straight up install, not anything modified.  No, did not have this problem before, and Yes I did notice it after some Updates come to think about it.  I didn't think these types of drivers Upgraded in Mint without Manually installing.

 

I'll look into reverting the Kernel, forced to use Windows today.


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Posted 14 June 2017 - 04:30 PM

Hi, punk.

 

Just a thought, but after noticing you said this happened after some updates came through.....

 

Were you aware that Chrome has switched to requiring GTK3 now (for the graphical rendering).....same as FireFox?

 

 

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 08:44 PM

I don't understand how that effects me Mike?  Apologies, I don't really understand GTK3 and Firefox works fine.  Is this something that I need to install extra packages to support GTK3 just for Chrome?


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Posted 16 July 2017 - 08:26 PM

Hi, punk.

 

Just a thought, but after noticing you said this happened after some updates came through.....

 

Were you aware that Chrome has switched to requiring GTK3 now (for the graphical rendering).....same as FireFox?

 

 

Mike.  :wink:

What does this mean for me Mike?  Is there something I need to install to fix it?


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Posted 16 July 2017 - 08:39 PM

Just did another big round of updates because I have not booted up in a while.

 

 

First thing I would try is using an older kernel (select Advanced Options in Grub boot menu). Any difference? 

I don't know how to use the Advanced Options in Grub?  I went into Grub Advanced Opions but was not sure of which one to choose?

The first was just the Kernel using now

The second said "upstart"

The third was "recovery mode"

I almost chose recovery mode, but wanted to avoid any problems tonight.

 

Also, I thought this could be done via Update Manager so posted this also.

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Posted 16 July 2017 - 09:59 PM

Al, this was the best I could do for Intel Driver.  Don't know if this is the Driver or not.  This is in KDE, I'll post the one in Mint 18 soon, which is where I'm having the problems.  Honestly, would like to torch that install.  I have Dual Boot KDE, then Mint 18 on my old HP nx7400.  Mint 18 has been nothing but problems for me, not to bad but still wasting too much time for me.

chris@chris-HP-Compaq-nx7400-EN352UTR-ABA:~ > dmesg | grep microcode
[    0.983826] microcode: CPU0 sig=0x6f2, pf=0x20, revision=0x0
[    0.983833] microcode: CPU1 sig=0x6f2, pf=0x20, revision=0x0
[    0.983950] microcode: Microcode Update Driver: v2.00 <tigran@aivazian.fsnet.co.uk>, Peter Oruba

Computer in question, along with the first part of lspci -v  This is also from KDE Side, not the Distro in question.  I'll post up the Intel stuff from Mint 18 if someone has time to tell me what I need to do.

 

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chris@chris-HP-Compaq-nx7400-EN352UTR-ABA:~ > inxi -Fz
System:    Host: chris-HP-Compaq-nx7400-EN352UTR-ABA Kernel: 3.13.0-37-generic x86_64 (64 bit) 
           Desktop: KDE 4.14.2 Distro: Linux Mint 17.1 Rebecca
Machine:   System: Hewlett-Packard (portable) product: HP Compaq nx7400 (EN352UTR#ABA) version: F.08
           Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 30A2 version: KBC Version 40.17
           Bios: Hewlett-Packard version: 68YGU Ver. F.08 date: 10/23/2006
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core2 CPU T5500 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 vmx) 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 1000.00 MHz 2: 1000.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile 945GM/GMS 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller 
           X.Org: 1.15.1 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1280x800@60.0hz 
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945GM GLX Version: 1.4 Mesa 10.1.3
Audio:     Card: Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.13.0-37-generic
Network:   Card-1: Broadcom BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX driver: b44 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection driver: iwl3945 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 80.0GB (33.3% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: ST980825AS size: 80.0GB 
Partition: ID: / size: 17G used: 9.1G (57%) fs: ext4 ID: /home size: 33G used: 16G (52%) fs: ext4 
           ID: swap-1 size: 4.09GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap 
RAID:      No RAID devices detected - /proc/mdstat and md_mod kernel raid module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 60.0C mobo: 59.0C 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Info:      Processes: 169 Uptime: 26 min Memory: 1500.6/3379.8MB Client: Shell inxi: 1.8.4 

chris@chris-HP-Compaq-nx7400-EN352UTR-ABA:~ > lspci -v
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 30a2
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel


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Posted 31 August 2017 - 07:39 PM

Hi, punk.

 

Just a thought, but after noticing you said this happened after some updates came through.....

 

Were you aware that Chrome has switched to requiring GTK3 now (for the graphical rendering).....same as FireFox?

 

 

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How would this affect me, and how would I correct it Mike?  Thinking about deleting Mate 18.0 because it has caused numerous problems so far.  Only one of my clients uses it so no big deal, and, he has had a few issues with it also that I had to fix.


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Posted 01 September 2017 - 05:58 AM

pcpunk, have you checked for Additional Drivers in the Administration list? :)

 

That's the first thing I'd consider. Secondly, we've had a number of members with computers around the age of yours that Mint 18 (MATE) & Ubuntu 16.04 doesn't run well on, in these cases Mint 17.3 is the best choice & supported for another 19-20 months. While you've gotten a lot of mileage out of your notebook, which I'd consider fantastic being an HP, although of higher quality than those of today (lots of shiny ABS plastic & bloatware), you're also reaching the point to where the notebook may not run the latest of every distro as you'd like. You may also want to consider a reinstall if it's been recent, with newly created install media, this can have an effect, have seen firsthand that this can make a difference. 

 

The output shown in the first post is kind of odd, first time I've seen it as such, which leads me to believe that Mint 18/Ubuntu 16.04 may not play well with your hardware. While it may not be what you want to hear, that's just the way it sometimes works, you've seen it on this forum as many times as myself. :)

 

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Posted 01 September 2017 - 08:33 AM

 

 

The output shown in the first post is kind of odd, first time I've seen it as such, which leads me to believe that Mint 18/Ubuntu 16.04 may not play well with your hardware.

What's odd cat?

 

This is the second distro on the pc as dual boot and is quite new install, the first is my KDE.  This one ran fine for a while, so I don't think it would be unsupported hardware though I could easily be wrong.

 

It's also causing this funky thing where when I open the lid after being closed for...let's say a week...it will start as it would if it was Hibernating or Sleeping, but all the settings are set to not do this.  Getting close to uninstalling it, and leaving KDE only, it killing my battery I think.

 

I don't care to have Mint 18.0 cat, but one of my customers needed the support, and wanted to test er out.


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Posted 01 September 2017 - 04:53 PM

Hiya, punk.

I don't understand how that effects me Mike?  Apologies, I don't really understand GTK3 and Firefox works fine.  Is this something that I need to install extra packages to support GTK3 just for Chrome?

Apologies for not getting back to you sooner. I've got 'a lot of irons in the fire'; I'm sure you know how that is..!

 

If FF's fine, then the problem's not with GTK3. FF switched before Chrome did, and Chrome would make use of the same libs.

 

I would go with Cat's advice. I think I'm right in saying that, when it comes to advice about hardware issues, he's the 'go-to' man around here. He knows more about this kinda stuff than I shall ever do, that's for sure.

 

Sorry not to be of more use to you on this one.

 

 

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Posted 01 September 2017 - 07:50 PM

That's fine Mike, were all busy in some way.  I may try Al's suggestion of reverting the Kernel, or, in the end to keep things simple may reinstall with Mate 17.3 which is fine enough for me and my old anvil laptop.  It's long in the tooth and getting harder to use it due to the Gorilla Fingers it takes to type on the thing, definately made to last those keys!  And the smallish square screen.  I just can't bare to toss it yet as it has served me so well, but eventually it will need to go into retirement as it is to much to maintain all these pc's.  I have a few newer 17"ers now that will serve me better.  I need more room to view File Manager etc. for work.  Crazy thing is just used it last night to get files of a customers infected HDD! ha...it's not done yet lol, but getting close.

 

Forgot in fact, if I cannot solve the Hibernate thing either, 18.0 will have to go, it's killing my battery I think.  I swear the thing wakes up by itself when it is stored.  I check every time to make sure it is shut down, and it is, then I open it for it's weekly updates and file syncing, and the darn thing wakes up as soon as I open the lid!!!


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Posted 04 September 2017 - 04:42 AM

 

 

 

The output shown in the first post is kind of odd, first time I've seen it as such, which leads me to believe that Mint 18/Ubuntu 16.04 may not play well with your hardware.

What's odd cat?

 

This is the second distro on the pc as dual boot and is quite new install, the first is my KDE.  This one ran fine for a while, so I don't think it would be unsupported hardware though I could easily be wrong.

 

It's also causing this funky thing where when I open the lid after being closed for...let's say a week...it will start as it would if it was Hibernating or Sleeping, but all the settings are set to not do this.  Getting close to uninstalling it, and leaving KDE only, it killing my battery I think.

 

I don't care to have Mint 18.0 cat, but one of my customers needed the support, and wanted to test er out.

 

 

pcpunk, what I found 'odd' was the output the way is shown, never have seen it shown as such before. Although this may be more of a browser issue, this can, as we seen in a lengthy Topic here by RJNB, hardware comes into play with these. :)

 

I know that your HP is an anvil, and in one of your recent posts, you also stated in the above referenced Topic that 17.3 was the same. That stated, I like 17.3 for a different reason on a few computers, AMD graphics are better supported, and on one older 32 bit model, the latest Mint MATE version that it'll run. Yes I agree, if MATE 18 is killing your battery, then it's time to get it off of these, while there are low cost generic replacements for many, quality varies, and we have no way of knowing which 'off-brand' is good or a knockoff. :lol:

 

If you want to test Mint 18, I suggest doing so on one of your newer notebooks, will be more compatible, although if AMD graphics, then once again, spinning wheels. While it may not matter to some, there's others who wants full driver support, be it in the Driver Manager or by adding a PPA. With Intel or NVIDIA, this is no issue, for now, a huge one for any current AMD notebooks that's running Mint 18/Ubuntu 16.04 LTS or later & wanting to game or perform GPU intensive workloads. Note that once Ryzen based notebooks are on the market, this will likely change. 

 

 

I don't care to have Mint 18.0 cat, but one of my customers needed the support, and wanted to test er out.

 

 

In that case, test it out on the customer's notebook, you can always try Live media with Persistence option (created on their computer) prior to install to preview what you'll (or they) get & then decide. The Hardware driver tab works, as does 'inxi -Fxz' (prefer the 'z' at the end for security), and the Persistence file will hold between reboots. Unfortunately, although I expected more wanting Linux installs, haven't been getting the requests, more wants W7/8.1 for now, so I have to provide what they want, or lose business, as there's many like us who knows how to perform the task, no need to carry to an expensive PC shop. Some has ads hanging on a utility pole offering this service, along with infection cleanup & other repairs at 50-75% less, depending on what's needed. :)

 

Another option, if you have any type of SATA HDD that fits their notebook, remove theirs for safety, install your tester, perform a Full install & let the customer check it out. Good to have one for this purpose anyway, if you're doing work regular for others. :thumbup2:

 

An install on your computer may act entirely different than on one belonging to another, even if runs good on yours, may not on on the other & vise versa. Other than booting an unfamiliar distro from Live media, have never tested in any other manner to install for someone else, the results aren't consistent from one computer to the next, there's a few makes/models that's kind of iffy with any Linux OS. Probably because the OEM made it that way, in rare cases, can semi-brick the UEFI chip just from booting from these which requires an expensive repair (reprogram the chip) & why many utilities now uses WinPE based media rather than Linux, for safety. This is usually covered in the more extensive online user manual, rather than the one included in the box. 

 

Or may not be mentioned at all, other than list of approved OS's with drivers, only to find out (too late) on the OEM's hardware Forum that the device doesn't support non-Windows OS's. So it's good to research prior to performing a Linux install for others, especially if a Samsung or Lenovo branded model & don't be shy to register on their Forums & ask questions, that way, you don't get burned. :)

 

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Posted 04 September 2017 - 09:31 AM

 

 

 

 

The output shown in the first post is kind of odd, first time I've seen it as such, which leads me to believe that Mint 18/Ubuntu 16.04 may not play well with your hardware.

What's odd cat?

 

pcpunk, what I found 'odd' was the output the way is shown, never have seen it shown as such before. Although this may be more of a browser issue, this can, as we seen in a lengthy Topic here by RJNB, hardware comes into play with these. :)

Yes, sorry cat, I had forgotten that part, but I already pointed that out.

 

 

I don't care to have Mint 18.0 cat, but one of my customers needed the support, and wanted to test er out.

 

In that case, test it out on the customer's notebook, you can always try Live media with Persistence option (created on their computer) prior to install to preview what you'll (or they) get & then decide.

It's already on his computer cat, I installed it about a year ago.  I think I may do the opposite of what one might do LOL.  I think I'm going to try to Upgrade it and see if that helps, thought this is more of a time risk to me.  If that fails I'll put Mate 17.3 on it as I like that a lot.

 

Now if Linux Mint would just provide an easy way for me to adjust my Pointer Speed I'd be pretty happy.


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