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#1 MaraM

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Posted 09 September 2006 - 02:15 PM

Reading 'CowsGoneMad' post about living without electricity, made me wonder if our school systems could 'slip in' a couple courses - one geared to younger children and one geared to those in high school.

Not 'extreme survival' training or anything like that, but basic stuff.

For younger children, one semester could concentrate on basic First Aid - and the next semester concentrate on things like why one doesn't drag the family bbq into the livingroom in order to provide heat ... why candles are best placed inside large glass jars for safety, when being burned ... why every family should have 'emergency supplies' ... why it's handy to always have an old pair of shoes tucked under one's bed and for that matter, why every family should have a emergency escape routes that they practice each month, in case of fire, etc. (Little ones are great for making us adults feel 'guilty' enough to check our smoke detector batteries and rotate our emergency food supplies regularly - gentle grin).

And because flood, earthquakes and other natural disasters (such as the nasty ice storm that hit a few years ago in Ontario and part of the States), teenagers could easily be taught how to turn off 'gas mains' in their homes, etc and numerous other things that could save their own lives and lives of others should disaster strike.

Although I loved trig in school, haven't used it since - but was lucky enough to have a father who believed one should always remember Mother Nature rules this earth, not we humans.
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Posted 09 September 2006 - 02:27 PM

should always remember Mother Nature rules this earth, not we humans.
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Posted 09 September 2006 - 03:45 PM

Well I think it would be a fun extra credit class anyways. Wish I had it because the classes i'm taking in 12th didnt give me a lot of fun choices....

I would like to see some school kids even make a fire without a match or lighter. LOL

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Posted 09 September 2006 - 07:18 PM

Considering the botched and bungled job public schools in the US do now, I would not think they could manage to teach that kind of course any better.
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Posted 09 September 2006 - 09:44 PM

Yeah did anyone see the 20/20 thing on "stupid in america" about how poor public schools do?

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Posted 09 September 2006 - 10:15 PM

Nope, didn't see '20/20' but wish I hadn't misplaced an article regarding a Grade 6 test - from 1911. Cripes, I suspect most current Grade 12's would have a hard time with it. We've become ever so dependant on our calculators and computers that most of the 'basics' that one may truly use in life have been lost.

Even in the 1980s, I was upset to receive test results back with an 'A' on them, yet our daughter(s) could have zillions of spelling mistakes on it. So we asked the teacher and was told that, "It's the content that counts". Went to the Principal and were told the same thing. As politely as possible, we explained we could like to be able to read any letters our children sent home when they moved away as adults, etc - and were met with a 'blank wall'.

Guess teachers weren't fond of us as we even insisted that each child know her basic math before using an 'adding machine' - now they have them in Grade 3 - geesh!

Guess I'm just old-fashioned - gentle sigh.
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Posted 09 September 2006 - 10:23 PM

Well we are homeschooled and our work is a lot harder than public school stuff. I remember when I was in 5th grade a new student wanted to come to the private school I was going to.

He had to take a test to get in. We used the harder home school type work books. He was in going into 5th grade but was spelling at a 2nd grade level in his public school. He said the words we had were hard.

He had words like stop and such. Short easy words.

We are learning more in this homeschool than you would in a public school. I still do tests like SAT but different and i'm up to where I should be by my schooling standards but dont know how I compare to a public school standard.

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Posted 09 September 2006 - 10:52 PM

World History According to Students
This history of the world has been compiled by Richard Lederer from actual student bloopers and mistakes collected by teachers.

The inhabitants of Egypt were called mummies. They lived in the Sarah Dessert and traveled by Camelot. The climate of the Sarah is such that the inhabitants have to live elsewhere, so certain areas of the dessert are cultivated by irritation. The Egyptians built the Pyramids in the shape of a huge triangular cube. The Pyramids are a range of mountains between France and Spain.

The Bible is full of interesting caricatures. In the first book of the Bible, Guinesses, Adam and Eve were created from an apple tree. One of their children, Cain, asked "Am I my brother's son?" God asked Abraham to sacrifice Issac on Mount Montezuma. Jacob, son of Issac, stole his brother's birthmark. Jacob was a partiarch who brought up his twelve sons to be partiarchs, but they did not take to it. One of Jacob's sons, Joseph, gave refuse to the Israelites.

Pharaoh forced the Hebrew slaves to make bread without straw. Moses led them to the Red Sea, where they made unleavened bread, which is bread made without any ingredients. Afterwards, Moses went up on Mount Cyanide to get the ten commandments. David was a Hebrew king skilled at playing the liar. He fougth with the Philatelists, a race of people who lived in Biblical times. Solomon, one of David's sons, had 500 wives and 500 porcupines.

Without the Greeks, we wouldn't have history. The Greeks invented three kinds of columns - Corinthian, Doric and Ironic. They also had myths. A myth is a female moth. One myth says that the mother of Achilles dipped him in the River Stynx until he became intolerable. Achilles appears in "The Illiad", by Homer. Homer also wrote the "Oddity", in which Penelope was the last hardship that Ulysses endured on his journey. Actually, Homer was not written by Homer but by another man of that name.

Socrates was a famous Greek teacher who went around giving people advice. They killed him. Socrates died from an overdose of wedlock.

In the Olympic Games, Greeks ran races, jumped, hurled the biscuits, and threw the java. The reward to the victor was a coral wreath. The government of Athen was democratic because the people took the law into their own hands. There were no wars in Greece, as the mountains were so high that they couldn't climb over to see what their neighbors were doing. When they fought the Parisians, the Greeks were outnumbered because the Persians had more men.

Eventually, the Ramons conquered the Geeks. History call people Romans because they never stayed in one place for very long. At Roman banquets, the guests wore garlic in their hair. Julius Caesar extinguished himself on the battlefields of Gaul. The Ides of March killed him because they thought he was going to be made king. Nero was a cruel tyrany who would torture his poor subjects by playing the fiddle to them.

Then came the Middle Ages. King Alfred conquered the Dames, King Arthur lived in the Age of Shivery, King Harlod mustarded his troops before the Battle of Hastings, Joan of Arc was cannonized by George Bernard Shaw, and the victims of the Black Death grew boobs on their necks. Finally, the Magna Carta provided that no free man should be hanged twice for the same offense.

In midevil times most of the people were alliterate. The greatest writer of the time was Chaucer, who wrote many poems and verse and also wrote literature. Another tale tells of William Tell, who shot an arrow through an apple while standing on his son's head.

The Renaissance was an age in which more individuals felt the value of their human being. Martin Luther was nailed to the church door at Wittenberg for selling papal indulgences. He died a horrible death, being excommunicated by a bull. It was the painter Donatello's interest in the female nude that made him the father of the Renaissance. It was an age of great inventions and discoveries. Gutenberg invented the Bible. Sir Walter Raleigh is a historical figure because he invented cigarettes. Another important invention was the circulation of blood. Sir Francis Drake circumcised the world with a 100-foot clipper.

The government of England was a limited mockery. Henry VIII found walking difficult because he had an abbess on his knee. Queen Elizabeth was the "Virgin Queen." As a queen she was a success. When Elizabeth exposed herself before her troops, they all shouted "hurrah." Then her navy went out and defeated the Spanish Armadillo.

The greatest writer of the Renaissance was William Shakespear. Shakespear never made much money and is famous only because of his plays. He lived in Windsor with his merry wives, writing tragedies, comedies and errors. In on of Shakespear's famous plays, Hamlet rations out his situation by relieving himself in a long soliloquy. In another, Lady Macbeth tries to convince Macbeth to kill the King by attacking his manhood. Romeo and Juliet are an example of a heroic couplet. Writing at the same time as Shakespear was Miquel Cervantes. He wrote "Donkey Hote". The next great author was John Milton. Milton wrote "Paradise Lost." Then his wife dies and he wrote "Paradise Regained."

During the Renaissance America began. Christopher Columbus was a great navigator who discovered America while cursing about the Atlantic. His ships were called the Nina, the Pinta, and the Santa Fe. Later the Pilgrims crossed the Ocean, and that was called the Pilgrim's Progress. When they landed at Plymouth Rock, they were greeted by Indians, who came down the hill rolling their was hoops before them. The Indian squabs carried porposies on their back. Many of the Indian heroes were killed, along with their cabooses, which proved very fatal to them. The winter of 1620 was a hard one for the settlers. Many people died and many babies were born. Captain John Smith was responsible for all this.

One of the causes of the Revolutionary Wars was the English put tacks in their tea. Also, the colonists would send their parcels through the post without stamps. During the War, Red Coats and Paul Revere were throwing balls over stone walls. The dogs were barking and the peacocks crowing. Finally, the colonists won the War and no longer had to pay for taxis.

Delegates from the original thirteen states formed the Contented Congress. Thomas Jefferson, a Virgin, and Benjamin Franklin were two singers of the Declaration of Independence. Franklin had gone to Boston carrying all his clothes in his pocket and a loaf of bread under each arm. He invented electricity by rubbing cats backwards and declared "a horse divided against itself cannot stand." Franklin died in 1790 and is still dead.

George Washington married Martha Curtis and in due time became the Father of Our Country. Then the Constitution of the United States was adopted to secure domestic hostility. Under the Constitution the people enjoyed the right to keep bare arms.

Abraham Lincoln became America's greatest Precedent. Lincoln's mother died in infancy, and he was born in a log cabin which he built with his own hands. When Lincoln was President, he wore only a tall silk hat. He said, "In onion there is strength." Abraham Lincoln wrote the Gettysburg address while traveling from Washington to Gettysburg on the back of an envelope. He also signed the Emasculation Proclamation, and the Fourteenth Amendment gave the ex-Negroes citizenship. But the Clue Clux Clan would torcher and lynch the ex-Negroes and other innocent victims. On the night of April 14, 1865, Lincoln went to the theater and got shot in his seat by one of the actors in a moving picture show. They believed assinator was John Wilkes Booth, a supposedly insane actor. This ruined Booth's career.

Meanwhile in Europe, the enlightenment was a reasonable time. Voltare invented electricity and also wrote a book called "Candy". Gravity was invented by Issac Walton. It is chiefly noticeable in the Autumn, when the apples are flaling off the trees.

Bach was the most famous composer in the world, and so was Handel. Handel was half German, half Italian and half English. He was very large. Bach died from 1750 to the present. Beethoven wrote music even though he was deaf. He was so deaf he wrote loud music. He took long walks in the forest even when everyone was calling for him. Beethoven expired in 1827 and later died for this.

France was in a very serious state. The French Revolution was accomplished before it happened. The Marseillaise was the theme song of the French Revolution, and it catapulted into Napoleon. During the Napoleonic Wars, the crowned heads of Europe were trembling in their shoes. Then the Spanish gorrilas came down from the hills and nipped at Napoleon's flanks. Napoleon became ill with bladder problems and was very tense and unrestrained. He wanted an heir to inheret his power, but since Josephine was a baroness, she couldn't bear him any children.

The sun never set on the British Empire because the British Empire is in the East and the sun sets in the West. Queen Victoria was the longest queen. She sat on a thorn for 63 years. Her reclining years and finally the end of her life were exemplatory of a great personality. Her death was the final event which ended her reign.

The nineteenth century was a time of many great inventions and thoughts. The invention of the steamboat caused a network of rivers to spring up. Cyrus McCormick invented the McCormick Raper, which did the work of a hundred men. Samuel Morse invented a code for telepathy. Louis Pastuer discovered a cure for rabbis. Charles Darwin was a naturailst who wrote the "Organ of the Species". Madman Curie discovered radium. And Karl Marx became one of the Marx Brothers.

The First World War, cause by the assignation of the Arch-Duck by a surf, ushered in a new error in the anals of human history.

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Posted 09 September 2006 - 11:20 PM

jgweed's and MaraM's post reminded me of this:

Teaching Math In 1950
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is 4/5 of the price.
What is his profit?

Teaching Math In 1960
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is 4/5 of the price, or $80.
What is his profit?

Teaching Math In 1970
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is $80.
Did he make a profit?

Teaching Math In 1980
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is $80 and his profit is $20
Your assignment: Underline the number 20.

Teaching Math In 1990
A logger cuts down a beautiful forest because he is selfish and inconsiderate and cares nothing for the habitat of animals, or the preservation of our woodlands. He does this so he can make a profit of $20.
What do you think of this way of making a living?
Topic for class participation after answering the question:
How did the birds and squirrels feel as the logger cut down their homes? (There are no wrong answers.)
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Posted 10 September 2006 - 01:25 AM

this it what I notice



my dad did math on his head.
my big brother and used pencils to do math.
my little brther used a calculator to do math.
my son only has to chosse a],b],c] or d
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Posted 10 September 2006 - 07:59 PM

Being in my 40's and owning my first ever PC for less than one year, I used to be amazed at what 20, 17, even 12 year old kids could do with computers. But then I found out what would happen if you asked that same kid what 9 x 9 was, or to make change from a $10 for a $3.37 purchase. I'm not so impressed anymore. In fact, I'm saddened...

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Posted 10 September 2006 - 09:41 PM

When I read the postings here, I'm saddened also - because I realize I'm not alone in my concern that our children aren't being taught even 'basic' life skills such as math and spelling - let alone, survival skills if Mother Nature should throw another 'hissy fit'.

Although it has nothing to do with physical survival skills, life-long intellectual skills are just as vital ... not too sure when things started going so wrong with the educational system but what ever happened to 'phonics' and basic arithmetic, I wonder.

I wish that the school systems throughout the world would re-think what children, particularly primary grades, should be taught. And also that more parents would simply and utterly refuse to let their little ones take calculators to school until they can do show basic math skills on their own, etc. (Only a dream, I know).

But perhaps more parents, grandparents and older siblings could pass on what they know - whether it's how to survive when a disaster strikes or something as simple as how to count change when a child buys something. We may not be able to change a school system but a few 'drops in the water' add up to a large puddle of basic skills that all children should have. Anyway, just a thought.
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Posted 10 September 2006 - 10:26 PM

The way I see it is the next .

, Our parents build the tools to make live easy

they knew how to survive with what they had.

The people that don't know how to use the tools don't successe.

now this generation has every tool to success in live
If we take the tools away they will not know what to do
that is sad


sorry for my gramar but Inglish is my second lenguge
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Posted 11 September 2006 - 06:44 AM

But perhaps more parents, grandparents and older siblings could pass on what they know - whether it's how to survive when a disaster strikes or something as simple as how to count change when a child buys something. We may not be able to change a school system but a few 'drops in the water' add up to a large puddle of basic skills that all children should have. Anyway, just a thought.

That appears to be the only option, because the school systems sure won't do it.
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Posted 11 September 2006 - 07:50 PM

Mrs. Ed ... please never worry about your grammer - your doing a great job for having English as your second language! (And you're 'one-up' on me by having two languages - grin!).

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The way I see it is the next .

, Our parents build the tools to make live easy

they knew how to survive with what they had.

The people that don't know how to use the tools don't successe.

now this generation has every tool to success in live
If we take the tools away they will not know what to do
that is sad


sorry for my gramar but Inglish is my second lenguge


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