Thanks for that Aaron_Warrior. Your "partition" suggestion seems to me more practical as well as being smoother if not shorter than anything else. Here are some of my thoughts about doing that. First, I have always used 2 partitions, one for system (Windows) and the other for Data. If it's of any interest I do that so for operating speed and to simplify and make more accurate any recovery, transfer, clone, copy data, or backup that might be needed. Currently I still have and use that partitioning, and on this HP the HDD is 1TB size. In other words I certainly have plenty of room to create another partition(s) (if I understand your suggestion) where I could install a "new" Win8.1, thereafter "hand migrating" other data "from partition-to-partition". Correct me if I'm wrong but by that do you mean I should use portable drives like flash, sandisk, etc. to migrate? Or do I simply boot on a new 8.1 and move data over? <--- This. I'm not sure this HP is capable of doing that but if so I suppose I should go into the bios and change boot order, settings, etc. In fact in order to initially install the new 8.1 I would have to boot on my 8.1 install DVD instead of the usual boot order...correct?
Sorry just noticed this (Post is posted and now in "edit" and on reread I just see this.)
No, you either take your DVD and make an ISO out of it. If it were me, I'd do this. Not that big of a deal. Once you have your unreliable, prone to catastrophic failure due to a single scratch optical media converted to electronic ISO format, as long as you have that ISO, you can always make a bootable USB to reinstall, or even burn a new DVD (for whatever reason). Optical media is OUT. ISO's are IN.
Any observations, suggestions?
Yes. A ton. Literally a TON of suggestions. How much do you want to know and how much time and effort do you want to put into knowing it. I could keep you busy learning for at least a month.
And those boot order changes would back and forth frequently until all transfer work is done where I would then delete the "original" Win 10 partition(s) and then make boot order normal?
All BIOS allows you to "set" boot order. Some BIOS give you the option to also choose which drive to boot at that moment. On my computer, hitting the "Esc" key at the start of boot gives me all the bootable devices and I can pick the one I want for just that one instace.
Also with regard to my concern about Linksys router network settings and configurations that I've always used on this HP to network to at least 2 and sometimes 4 other puters, do you know if it's possible to "move" or copy that router installation settings to the new 8.1, or will I have to buy another router with a valid and current install software? As I may have mentioned Linksys refuses to update their original install CD software without cost.
This confuses me. Are you setting up port forwards? MAC Address filtering (white/blacklisting, etc...)? Static Local IP Addresses?
First I challenge the idea that two partitions on the same HD have faster read/write times than having the data all on a single partition. My tech experience is dated, I have to remember what I think I knew 5 years ago, but I suspect that this is more of an internet "myth" than a technically verifiable fact.
It might make things clearer for you "mentally" in terms of how your data is organized, which has value. My point is to not elevate a minor quirk to the lofty height of "objectively provable as better". We all have these quirks, but it's important to recognize them as such and not parlay them into more than that. Sometimes you adapt your mind to fit your computer, and sometimes you adapt your computer to fit your mind. That's a "good enough" reason, IMO.
First you make your new partition from Win10. Then make your Win8 USB drive using a good, clean Win8 ISO (meaning NOT modified and/or infected) and Rufus. <-- Wrote this before I saw where you already had an official HP OEM Win8 Installation Disk.
PAY ATTENTION HERE. VERY IMPORTANT.
If/when you install Win8, it is going to overwrite your boot partition making Win8 the default and you will not be able to access your Win10 O/S until you install a boot manager program like EasyBCD to your Win8 O/S. Once the boot manager program is installed, it will find your Win10 O/S, add it to the list of options and after that you can choose between Win8 or Win10. I'll hold off of the step-by-step instructions for another post. But I wanted to mention this now to prevent you from charging off and ending up with a brand-new Win8 O/S and no access to Win10.
To your primary question, you migrate your data while booted to the Win8 O/S. It will call itself "Drive C:" and your Win10 will be called something like "Drive F:" and within Windows Explorer you can just hand "Cut" the contents of folders such as "My Documents" from "Drive F:" to "My Documents" on "Drive C:". Very simple, and straightforward.
I assume you are aware that almost none of the data from your installed programs will have any value, i.e. you'll have to reinstall all the software. The saved game data might transfer over, but that will require some research on your part to determine where the data is in Win10 and where it needs to drop on Win8. But documents, images, videos, etc... will transfer no problem.
I just did a Win8 install for the 1st time last week. My current O/S is and has been Win7 for over 3 years and I like it fine but suspect that Win8 is safer from a security perspective and so that is why I want to move to Win8. I've spent about 3 hours in the Win8 environment and I had to do a LOT of customization in order to learn to like it. I used Windows Classic Shell to make it look more like Win7, and a 3rd party software named "Aero-something" to give the windows that "Aero" look that I like. Tbh in some ways Win8 is annoying. I don't like the little menus that slide out from the sides when the mouse drifts over there. I'll never use them and if I could turn them off I would. But on the up-side it seems that Win8 is faster in some ways, but that could also be because it's brand-new and nothing has really been installed yet to clog things up. But I've seen Win10 and if it's a choice between Win10 and Win8, Win8 wins easily, so I both encourage and bless your goal of transitioning to Win8. Plus the data mining and lack of privacy of Win10 makes it completely unacceptable to me, in fact I cringe whenever I read some idiot saying anything positive about Win10. All it does is more firmly cement my belief that some people really hate any kind of freedom and individual rights and much prefer to be completely subordinated to an unseen conglomeration of corporate and government interests, and also that they are really the majority and I'm the weirdo in the minority. You should be too, is my point. Research "Software as a Service" for more FUD, and why it means that MS (et al...) can do anything they want with your computer now.
Edited by Aaron_Warrior, 08 June 2017 - 02:14 PM.