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Kaspersky sues Microsoft

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#1 JohnC_21


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Posted 06 June 2017 - 09:57 AM

Kaspersky sues Microsoft over claims Windows 10 is 'incompatible' with third-party AV

KASPERSKY HAS become the latest company to file an antitrust complaint with the European Union, this time over Microsoft's Windows 10 operating system.

After first filing a complaint with Russian regulators from the Federal Antimonopoly Service (FAS), the security company has now turned its fire on European regulators, including the European Commission and German Federal Cartel Office.
In a sensational claim, Kaspersky says that a customer in France was told by a Microsoft representative that "Windows 10 is incompatible with third-party antivirus. It's a shame that you've spent money on a Kaspersky Lab product, but you can't reinstall it without running the risk of the appearance of new bugs."
They also point to some promotional blurb for Windows 8 which says: "If you use Windows 8, you do not need to pay for antivirus software".





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Posted 06 June 2017 - 10:49 AM

All I can say is that if what's reported is the basis of the lawsuit I doubt that more than a day in court will be needed and I doubt it will be in the plaintiff's favor.


Using an accurate marketing statement from Microsoft, regarding Windows 8, in its marketing materials:  "If you use Windows 8, you do not need to pay for antivirus software"," hardly seems criminal or anti-competitive.   You do not need to pay for antivirus software if you choose to use the built-in Windows Defender.  That's a simple fact.   If you don't, then you have elected to pay for a third party product or elected to install an alternative free product.  In either case the statement from Microsoft is accurate.


I also doubt the court would be swayed by any misstatement by a single Microsoft (or other company, for that matter) tech support person.  These happen all the time and unless there were some evidence of a coordinated effort, well . . .

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Posted 06 June 2017 - 11:04 AM

I have read where the detection rates with Defender have improved quite a bit.



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Posted 07 June 2017 - 05:57 AM

Microsoft has publicly said, it is compatable with third-party antivirus solutions.

Windows Defender Advanced Threat Protection

Windows Defender Advanced Threat Protection (Windows Defender ATP) is a security service that enables enterprise customers to detect, investigate, and respond to advanced threats on their networks...Windows Defender ATP works with existing Windows security technologies on endpoints, such as Windows Defender, AppLocker, and Device Guard. It can also work side-by-side with third-party security solutions and antimalware products.

Windows Defender Antivirus compatibility

If an onboarded endpoint is protected by a third-party antimalware client, Windows Defender Antivirus on that endpoint will enter into passive mode. Windows Defender Antivirus will continue to receive updates, and the mspeng.exe process will be listed as a running a service, but it will not perform scans and will not replace the running third-party antimalware client. The Windows Defender Antivirus interface will be disabled, and users on the endpoint will not be able to use Windows Defender Antivirus to perform on-demand scans or configure most option.

Windows Defender Antivirus and Advanced Threat Protection

...In passive mode, Windows Defender will continue to run (using the msmpeng.exe process), and will continue to be updated, however there will be no Windows Defender user interface, scheduled scans won't run, and Windows Defender will not provide real-time protection from malware...If you uninstall the other product, and choose to use Windows Defender to provide protection to your endpoints, Windows Defender will automatically return to its normal active mode.

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