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Is there a code I can insert in registry to block Google?


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#1 cooljay

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Posted 27 May 2017 - 03:22 PM

I have Do not Track enabled etc but of course Google couldn't care less.

 

I use DuckDuckGo instead of Google. But Google.com appears in the cookies no matter what. I don't know if this is google analytics from a website I visited, but it simply says google.com.

 

I'm sick and tired of erasing them. I'm so done with this.

 

If I go into the registry as admin, is there something I can do that will reject google and still let me surf the way I want? Or do these jerks control everything now?

 

I'm using Firefox exclusively, plus all kinds of methods to ensure privacy, including VPN. But it's a matter of principle.


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Posted 27 May 2017 - 03:39 PM

I just realized that certain sites are attached to google like crazy glue. The New York Times, my bank, my email client - all three make allow google to attach their evil cookie while their site is being loaded. So by the time I see google in my cookie jar it's already too late. they've tracked me already. I can erase them now but so what?

 

This really pisses me off.



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Posted 27 May 2017 - 03:43 PM

If you're so concerned about privacy why don't you use Linux? After all under Linux you can choose what you install and what web browser you use and how it behaves and only use Windows if you want to game

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Posted 27 May 2017 - 04:09 PM

I have Do not Track enabled etc but of course Google couldn't care less.
 
I use DuckDuckGo instead of Google. But Google.com appears in the cookies no matter what. I don't know if this is google analytics from a website I visited, but it simply says google.com.
 
I'm sick and tired of erasing them. I'm so done with this.
 
If I go into the registry as admin, is there something I can do that will reject google and still let me surf the way I want? Or do these jerks control everything now?
 
I'm using Firefox exclusively, plus all kinds of methods to ensure privacy, including VPN. But it's a matter of principle.


One option is to use a program that will automatically erase all unwanted cookies each day. I use such a program on my Mac. I believe the paid version of CCleaner will do this for Windows, but there are likely other programs. This is likely my best suggestion. I am not aware of a better option at this point, but others might be. Just be aware that some sites (such a banks) use cookies to "remember" your computer for the purposes of whether or not to make you go through extra security hoops. The program I use allows me to exclude certain sites from the "cookie monster feast" (i.e. my cute way of saying cookie purge). I have not used CCleaner on Windows or any similar program, but I would hope that they would offer a similar feature.

The other thing that I will note is that dealing with cookies has gotten more complicated over the years. Companies have gotten more tricky with how they create cookies. As I understand it, there are ways for them to make cookies more persistent. I don't know all the ins and outs of it, but I have read some articles about it in the past. Since I am not overly concerned about it, I have never full delved into it in order to try to deal with such cookies.

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Posted 27 May 2017 - 04:10 PM

If you're so concerned about privacy why don't you use Linux? After all under Linux you can choose what you install and what web browser you use and how it behaves and only use Windows if you want to game


But is Linux really going to getter handle the sneaky cookies that some companies/website use any better than a browser on Windows? Not trying to be snarky...honestly asking.

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Posted 27 May 2017 - 04:21 PM

If you're so concerned about privacy why don't you use Linux? After all under Linux you can choose what you install and what web browser you use and how it behaves and only use Windows if you want to game

But is Linux really going to getter handle the sneaky cookies that some companies/website use any better than a browser on Windows? Not trying to be snarky...honestly asking.

Actually yes because of the way Linux handles things it's completely different than how Windows does things whereas in Windows everything is tied into the OS Linux is more component based

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Posted 27 May 2017 - 04:24 PM

Sorry for sounding annoyed but really?? Really?? - I asked a VERY precise question and have people go off on me with their own pet peeves?

 

This is about G.O.O.G.L.E.

 

This is NOT about Linux, other sneaky ways of websites to install THEIR freaking cookies.

 

Madman, I don't need your snarky comments. I am using Linux on another machine. That doesn't change anything as far as freaking google is concerned. You obviously do not understand or even bothered to read the question, so eager you are to boast with your superior knowledge of Linux. Kudos for knowing Linux, ZERO for reading comprehension.


Sorry for sounding annoyed but really?? Really?? - I asked a VERY precise question and have people go off on me with their own pet peeves?

 

This is about G.O.O.G.L.E.

 

This is NOT about Linux, other sneaky ways of websites to install THEIR freaking cookies.

 

Madman, I don't need your snarky comments. I am using Linux on another machine. That doesn't change anything as far as freaking google is concerned. You obviously do not understand or even bothered to read the question, so eager you are to boast with your superior knowledge of Linux. Kudos for knowing Linux, ZERO for reading comprehension.



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Posted 27 May 2017 - 04:28 PM

The real reason why I suggested Linux in the first place is that it does indeed protect you from this sort of behavior after all windows is notorious for this kind of issue and if you are that paranoid about Google infecting your computer its a sensible alternative then to mess around with registry files. And really don't mess with Registries within windows it is not a good idea as if you muck around your registry you could make your window system go broken. I mean it would actually be easier for you to use Linux on the side as your browsing system then to muck around with the windows registries and possibly break the system causing you to reinstall from scratch.

Personally I say if you're paranoid about Google I wonder what you're using as your mobile phone or even using your computer because nearly everything tracks you anymore.


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Posted 27 May 2017 - 04:56 PM

You are right, Madman, everything is tracking us. As far as Android, you could root it and throw out that despicable Carrier IQ. Don't know about iphone.

 

I'm not paranoid about google. I just resent the relentlessness of it.

 

And be careful about trusting Linux too much. You are not one of those who think they can get away without firewalls and antivirus and such bec it's "built from the ground up to prevent security mishaps?" Because that's a crock of bs.



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Posted 27 May 2017 - 04:59 PM

Well yes linux inst bullteproof but if I still recommend it for those who are into privacy.

I mean yes I personally still use google myself as really i dont care as i have nothing to hide from them.

Let them have my porn collection i dont mind :D


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Posted 27 May 2017 - 05:46 PM

Sorry for sounding annoyed but really?? Really?? - I asked a VERY precise question and have people go off on me with their own pet peeves?


Sometimes very precise questions don't have answers or even very precise answers. And people want to try to help, so they might offer other solutions that might get you partially or fully to what you want in another way. That is part of asking a question on a forum like this.

And some of those answers will be affected by the users internal biases (MadmanRB clearly prefers Linux and tends to let that be known, many times in a rather emphatic way...I tend to prefer the macOS, but I try as hard as I can to temper my bias as I know it is not for every one, especially MadmanRB as he has made clear in a recent other thread as well as past ones). Again, that is something you will have to live with if you post to a forum such as this.

As to my attempt at help, if it annoys you, then I will refrain from trying to help in the future. Just say the word. Not a problem on my end. I try to help where I can, but if I am not helpful, then I have no problem bowing out.

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Posted 27 May 2017 - 11:39 PM

I just realized that certain sites are attached to google like crazy glue. The New York Times, my bank, my email client - all three make allow google to attach their evil cookie while their site is being loaded. So by the time I see google in my cookie jar it's already too late. they've tracked me already. I can erase them now but so what?

 

This really pisses me off.

 

This is what happens to people that read the New York Times.  And that anger that you feel?  That's the dissonance between the lies that you believe in and the real world as your own eyes and your own mind have determined it to be.  It's not just Google, it's EVERYTHING.  They're ALL lying to you, and trying to manipulate you into doing whatever they want you to do.  It's not just advertisers, politicians, it's also the guy across the street who thinks his life is just great, despite the fact that he's your example of exactly who you DON'T want to be, living that stupid, sterile and useless existance.

 

Anyways.  I just wanted you to know that someone else gets it.  The hard part is to not lash out at the people trying to help.  Everyone here is here for similar reasons, but not the SAME reasons as you.  Some might think you have a computer problem.  Some might think you have some kind of emotional problem.  Some might think you are just young, and undeveloped.  I happen to think that you have a TOO MUCH AWARENESS problem.  It's probably terminal, btw, so get used to it.

 

In terms of Linux, swallow the bitter medicine.  Part of the message here is that no one currently hates Google as much as you currently do, so you are more or less on your own if you choose to sanitize your Windows (non-Linux) machine of every trace of it's existance.  But Google is everywhere and it infects everything.  The day after you successfully conclude that you've rid your computer of everything Google, you are going to get a pop-up from Google asking if you'd like to make it your new Home Page.  I don't think you are going to "win" this one; the best you can do is hope to learn as much as you can while you slide downwards towards your inevitable defeat.  Good luck.



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Posted 28 May 2017 - 02:02 PM

LOL, Aron, you are exactly right!!

 

I don't mean to be mean, I'm just frustrated when people don't seem to even read the question. This is a recurring thing that happens everywhere. I asked somewhere about clearing private info from my pics but Not Exif data which I don't care about. Promptly I got responses how to deal with Exif data. Just sayin'.

 

I do welcome comments and help even when it's slightly off. Obviously. Otherwise I wouldn't be here.

 

No Smax, your comments didn't annoy me and i would hate to lose you..



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Posted 28 May 2017 - 02:36 PM

The simple answer to the original question posed in the subject is:   no.      

 

If you're a Firefox user, and worried about Google, then I suggest you try adding the Lightbeam add-on to see that Google is far from the only thing you're up against.

 

For myself, I have long ago accepted that what I get out of the internet comes with a price, even though that price is not directly monetary.  Google itself has been a huge influence in making the internet as easy to use as it is.   I don't use their search engine because I don't want my searches tracked (I use DuckDuckGo, too) but my own website for my one-man business has Google Analytics because it's really handy to have the kind of aggregate reporting it allows me to see (nothing about individual users is available to me).   I can only imagine how much more valuable that information is to major media outlets and other companies that sell to a huge market.

 

It's been said by others on these forums in various places before, and I'll say it again:   If you want privacy like there used to be before the internet the only way you can even come close is by not using a computer that's connected to the internet.    Even if you go that route, people don't seem to realize that virtually all public records, including some from before the internet age, are now available online and are simple to find.   There was a lot of privacy by obscurity and/or lack of ease of access that is now gone forever, so I'll never have the same privacy parameters that my parents' generation did.


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Posted 28 May 2017 - 02:51 PM

I agree, it seems that nowadays, with everything else that's going on, Google might appear as almost one of the good guys. I didn't mean to make a big deal out of it. Google is definitely not an entity that keeps me awake at night. I was just curious if there is a solution to what was bugging me.

 

As far as the stance that "I don't have anything to hide, therefore I don't care" that's really beside the point. You don't do anything illegal when you take a dump in a public bathroom but you still want to have that door closed. (I hope.) It's not about pulling a fast one on the government, it's that once everybody is counted, classified, and searchable, who are we going to be as human beings?






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