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Posted 26 May 2017 - 04:59 PM
Posted 26 May 2017 - 06:43 PM
Posted 27 May 2017 - 12:10 AM
"It ocurred to me that all of the Extension options (AP, Repeater, et al) are designed to address situations that would deal with a stationary computer."
Sorry but that is not correct. Wired and wifi devices.
"Can this be done, without me having to keep switching the connection manually?"
1. you can put in a WDS network
2. you can put in a mesh network
Posted 27 May 2017 - 02:21 PM
Posted 27 May 2017 - 02:27 PM
Posted 27 May 2017 - 03:02 PM
Posted 27 May 2017 - 03:14 PM
There are actually two of these networks that are stronger than mine in my own house. Not only that, but neither is Secure. They're both Open networks. However, when my devices (new, just setting them up) connected to one automatically, there was no Internet access, nor with the other. I tried it just for kicks. My wife told me after I posted though that it's not our neighbors, because they've changed on both sides of us.
Posted 27 May 2017 - 03:31 PM
Just to explain, I have read about people who buy repeaters, et al, to extend their WiFi out onto their porch or wherever and that's why I thought this would be easy at first.
But then I saw where it gets configured with an IP of its own, which prompted my question here before I bought one, which is how laptops/devices connect as you're moving around.
The "porch" example is real, which sounded to me like the guy is taking his laptop out onto the porch when he wants to, so okay, but if the repeater has a different IP, then how can he just walk out to his porch (where he didn't have enough signal befote) with his laptop and just be connected with good signal now, without having to manually connect each time? At least he didn't mention that he was in his product review.
I.e., I don't think the average person buying these just to extend their home network (at least not everyone in the home) knows to "look for and connect to the repeater now, because I'm out on the porch now".
This is what lead to my question of how it is working and to make sure I'll be able to do what it sounds like it's doing, before I bought one, because it has a different IP, so how is that going to happen?
Quick question please: If I do decide to just set up the other Router I have as an AP and split the network (that Router does have an actual "AP Mode"), do I make the SSID the same as it is in the Main Router? Or do I use a different SSID in the AP?
Posted 27 May 2017 - 05:44 PM
Posted 27 May 2017 - 06:14 PM
> Every WiFi device that I have
> ever used will not automatically
> connect to an "unknown" WiFi SSID
> (i.e. one that the device has never
> connected to before) without some
> sort of input from the user.
Our experiences are quite different then. Mind you, I'm talking about Android as I mentioned and without a configured connection, just turning on the WiFi will cause the device to seek a connection and it will autoconnect to the strongest signal, if that connection is "Open".
Now, since I have always bought Samsung, could it be a brand thing? I don't know, maybe. :-)
My question to you would be if you've ever turned on the WiFi on an Android device with zero networks stored that you've connected to AND an "Open" network where you are. That is the case I'm discussing.
But once I have at some point connected to what I wish to connect to, as I have, I assume that wouldn't be an issue. :-)
Also, just to refresh, I use a Static IP network and so, must configure any connections as such.
So while I assume??? that what you're saying is that with a simple repeater or a Router configured as an AP the IP would be irrelevent if the SSID is the same on both, in my case with a Static IP, that is part of what's configured manually for my connection.
But let me clarify, please... I'm not talking about the IP of the device. I'm talking about the IP I'm telling it to connect TO.
So in other words, using a Static IP network, if the Router is dot-1 and the Repeater is dot-2 (even assuming the same SSID) and in my phone's settings for my network connection I have manually set the Gateway to dot-1, then won't it ignore the Repeater?
See what I mean? I'm not trying to be stubborn or dense. It's just that you're mentioning DHCP and I'm Static.
From what I gathered from your reply, you're saying that in a DHCP network, as long as the SSID in the Main Router and the Repeater are the same, then in my phone I connect to the SSID broadcast and don't worry from then on, it'll grab connection from either one it needs to, no manual switching required.
Is that correct???
But doesn't the game change entirely, even with the same SSID on both, when it's a Static network???
Sorry for being stupid! :-)
Posted 28 May 2017 - 11:56 AM
Both mesh and WDS have moved from the commercial to the home retail markets. FYI
Posted 02 June 2017 - 03:34 PM
Posted 02 June 2017 - 03:57 PM
Sorry for the delay!
Please note, CAPS used only for emphasis and NOT shouting.
FYI, when I said "dot-1" and "dot-2", those weren't SSID's, those were IP's. :-)
Please assume Static IP Network.
Main Router = "Router"
Access Point/AP (Router that has an actual "AP Mode") = "AP"
Phone/Tablet/Laptop = "Device"
Okay, to make sure I have this right, I set it up as follows (please correct any errors):
IP = 192.168.1.1
SSID = Rocket
(fill in the rest normally)
IP = 192.168.1.2
SSID = Rocket
AP - If there are any other settings in AP Mode (Gateway, DNS), should I point them to the Router (192.168.1.1), or just leave them blank if possible?
Now for the (Static IP) Device. I will state what my Android phone (Samsung Note 4) asks for:
IP Address (for itself)
So what would I need to fill in to make it work properly, as you described, with it not caring about IP and just auto-switching connections as needed?
Posted 04 June 2017 - 01:25 PM
DHCP should be enabled on the main router in the range of 192.168.1.50 to 192.168.1.100
This will leave 192.168.1.1-49 free for static assignments.
In AP mode the ap should be passing the dhcp requests/answers to connected clients. It itself should not be a dhcp server.
There is no reason to give your phone a static ip. It will screw you up connecting to other wifi networks.
Posted 09 June 2017 - 06:00 PM
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