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Should Java be on and updated?


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#1 Flyingsushi

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 04:11 PM

I was going to play euchre at www.pogo.com but it is asking me to turn Java on then directs me to update Java.  I was under the impression Java was a security risk or something.  I just wanted to play some cards.  Should I do this or not?

 

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 04:48 PM

If You Must Use Java, Qman7 - http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/570511/which-of-these-services-are-necessary-for-windows-xp-to-run-properly/page-2#entry3661140

 

Java Use, Quietman7 - http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/516886/problems-with-browsing-this-page-cant-be-displayed/?p=3231066

 

Using Java, QMan - http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/514146/java-auto-updater-cant/?p=3208484

 

Verify Java Version - http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp

 

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 05:20 PM

Thank you for those links



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Posted 24 May 2017 - 06:55 PM

I was going to play euchre at www.pogo.com but it is asking me to turn Java on then directs me to update Java.  I was under the impression Java was a security risk or something.  I just wanted to play some cards.  Should I do this or not?
 
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It is kind of up to you. There are risks to using Java, but then there are some sites where you have to use Java to be able to use those sites. So, you have to decide if the risk is worth the reward of using those sites.

FWIW, your browser might allow you to keep Java turned off most of the time and then turn it on just when you need it. I am using Safari on a Mac and it has the ability to allow or disallow the use of various plugins (including Java) on specific websites along with a default setting that you can set to NOT allow on any website you have not give prior permission. You can likely do this with other browsers whether with built-in functionality like in Safari or with third party extensions that most browsers support.

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Posted 25 May 2017 - 03:04 AM

Do you know if Java is already installed on your computer?

 

If not, I would suggest to find another site to play cards that does not require Java. Java is certainly a security risk if it is not kept up to date.


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Posted 25 May 2017 - 02:34 PM

Do you know if Java is already installed on your computer?
 
If not, I would suggest to find another site to play cards that does not require Java. Java is certainly a security risk if it is not kept up to date.


In a way, I kind of agree. For me personally, I am not sure I would consider the "reward" of being able to play a card game on a website enough to run the risk with Java security risks. I would either find another site that does not require Java or just not play that card game on a website. But, that is me. Different people have different ways of evaluating risk-reward scenarios. In my case, I am just not that into playing card games, so that means I don't really consider it much of a "reward" in general. Someone who loves playing card games might think otherwise. There are certainly other scenarios where I might consider it worth the risk of Java (or Flash).

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Posted 25 May 2017 - 03:48 PM

If you decide to play those Pogo cames, Please let us know what OS you have.

--- If you have Windows 10, use IE for Java based games, use EDGE for Flash Player games.

--- See if there are Flash Player card games and see if you might like those

 

Consider the following

Keep your computer safe & secure so that it essentially runs as good as new.

When Pogo informs you that Java needs to be turned on and updated, do so.

When Pogo informs you that your version is out of date, don’t try to trudge through whatever game you want to play: update immediately.

Do you know how to tell if you have the latest Java version?

--- If not, let us know so we can let you know.

My brother is a heavy Pogo player (both Java & Flash Player) and he doesn’t have any problems playing his games following those guideliens for quite a while now.

 

You might find this interesting

I am not a gamer but I use the Microsoft Solitaire Collection on my Windows 10 computer just to pass the time away once in a while and there are free games available through the Microsoft Store.



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Posted 29 May 2017 - 08:36 AM

Do you know if Java is already installed on your computer?

 

If not, I would suggest to find another site to play cards that does not require Java. Java is certainly a security risk if it is not kept up to date.

It is not installed.

 

 

 

If you decide to play those Pogo cames, Please let us know what OS you have.

--- If you have Windows 10, use IE for Java based games, use EDGE for Flash Player games.

--- See if there are Flash Player card games and see if you might like those

 

Consider the following

Keep your computer safe & secure so that it essentially runs as good as new.

When Pogo informs you that Java needs to be turned on and updated, do so.

When Pogo informs you that your version is out of date, don’t try to trudge through whatever game you want to play: update immediately.

Do you know how to tell if you have the latest Java version?

--- If not, let us know so we can let you know.

My brother is a heavy Pogo player (both Java & Flash Player) and he doesn’t have any problems playing his games following those guideliens for quite a while now.

 

You might find this interesting

I am not a gamer but I use the Microsoft Solitaire Collection on my Windows 10 computer just to pass the time away once in a while and there are free games available through the Microsoft Store.

 

I have Windows 10.  

I don't know for sure how to tell if I have the latest version of Java off hand?  

 

It sounds ok to me if I install it, keep it updated with the latest version and just turn it off when I am not using pogo.  

 

I normally use Chrome web browser but I also have Microsoft Edge on here.  Should I use one over the other?  If I use Chrome, do I have to go to the chrome store and get the java extension?



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Posted 29 May 2017 - 07:05 PM

At Flyingsushi, I don't know for sure how to tell if I have the latest version of Java off hand?

Verify Java Version. https://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp

Is Java installed? https://www.whatismybrowser.com/detect/is-java-installed
 

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Posted 29 May 2017 - 09:16 PM

In my post #7, I was thinking of EDGE & IE11

--- In your case, you use EDGE & Chrome web browser

 

Will Java run in my browser on Windows 10?

"Internet Explorer 11 and Firefox will continue to run Java on Windows 10. The Edge browser does not support plug-ins and therefore will not run Java."

https://java.com/en/download/faq/win10_faq.xml

--- So when running Pogo Java games, don’t even try Edge

Firefox: Install the Flash plugin to view videos, animations and games

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/install-flash-plugin-view-videos-animations-games

--- So it appears Firefox runs with both Java & Flash Player

 

Microsoft Edge supports Flash (and PDF) natively

http://flashdaily.net/post/123106336802/microsoft-edge-supports-flash-and-pdf-natively

--- So you may choose Edge to run Pogo Flash Player games

 

Java and Google Chrome Browser

https://www.java.com/en/download/faq/chrome.xml

I don’t use Google Chrome and I don’t like their explanation but determine what you get out of it.

Hopefully someone else will have a good explanation of what all of that reads.

One senetence that stands out to me is

“If you have problems accessing Java applications using Chrome, Oracle recommends using Internet Explorer (Windows) or Safari (Mac OS X) instead.”

 

I know quite a few Pogo players who tell me they do alright: the only ones I can verify is my brother and a friend: my brother has shown me the others who are on the same games he does both Java & Flash games. My friend plays Pogo games as well as games from other sites.

 

Good luck on what you decide to do.



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Posted 31 May 2017 - 02:50 PM

Avoid Java like the plague, if it's not kept upto date it can be quite a problem.






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