[quote name='cowsgonemadd3' post='353634' date='Sep 8 2006, 11:39 PM']Yes but would you have time to get all that stuff with people trying to get what little or those items they have?[/quote]
Which is why I'm working on getting them now.
[quote]If the power did go out the economy as we know it would be gone so no need to run a buisness.[/quote]
Actually businesses were run before there was all this fossil energy use, but they were very different kinds of businesses, and things were done by hand: blacksmiths, silversmiths, textile industries, tinkers (these people mended pots and pans among other things), law offices, local stores for trade goods etc. Cottage businesses were also very common.
[quote]I wouldnt like the thought of the smog. I dont know what they did in the times when all they had to heat was wood. I mean did everybody choke all night?[/quote]
For one thing there were far fewer people then, and in cities choking did happen. Have you heard of the expression "London particular?" This is a very thick fog filled with smoke as well. Fog keeps the smoke from rising.
[quote]I think many would die simply because of lack of knowledge. Many people cant even stand to be in the sun any time. How could they work in a garden sun up to sun down if they had to?[/quote]
Work-days were very different. Work early morning in the fields and gardens, and late afternoon into the evenings. Lunch was long and often followed by a break, called a siesta in Spanish.
[quote]I would not want to be around many people. The people would spread out so they would not have smog issues. Houses werent built so close in the past.[/quote]
That depends on where you were. There were cities with houses built very close together; Jericho is an example.
[quote]People would have to leave there big house to get in one smaller in the woods.[/quote]
Certainly smaller ones: many of our "modest" homes would be considered mansions. However, many people didn't live in the woods as there were no woods where they were.
Here are links to a couple sites about a Harran, Turkey which has an ancient history. The little conical houses have tiny windows and are the traditional houses from centuries back. People still live in them. The second site goes from the past to the present, and you can see that there were some huge buildings way back when.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Harran-beehouses.jpghttp://www.galenfrysinger.com/harran_turkey.htm
Other people were nomadic or semi-nomadic. The latter would be in one area for part of the year and another area for another part of the year. The Wa She Shu and the Lakota were both semi-nomadic. The people of Lapland still are in many ways, and I think the Beduoin might be - not sure though.
[quote]I doubt we would run out of tree's. They have used them for year and years and years.[/quote]
Monroe County and Brown County were completely deforested in less than 50 years with people using axes. Most of those trees were simply burned - and not as fuel either. The logs were simply too large to haul anywhere. They were rolled into ditches and burned. They simply wanted to clear the land of trees: they thought this was an improvement. The artist T.C. Steele could see the location of Indiana University from his home in Brown County. There was not a single tree. The Big Woods of Wisconsin was nearly eliminated in the 1800's.
[quote]Besides they have hybrid tree's that grow very fast that people could plant.[/quote]
Fast growing trees produce a softer and weaker wood. This wood isn't as strong for building and doesn't produce as much heat, and it also burns faster.
[quote]Wood isnt the only thing that burns. Grass could be used too for fires and it grows faster than tree's but doesnt last as long once set on fire.[/quote]
Yes, which is why the Ingalls family during the long winter twisted the hay into sticks of sorts, but still they burn much faster than wood. Dung and bone can also be burned, and have been and are used as fuel. You can see a pile of dried cattle dung used for cooking fuel in the second site I posted above.
[quote]Solar wind and wave power could power our whole nation if used. But these big oil companies dont want that to happen. A good backup plan would be to get solar panels on your roof as a investment(since solar cost more than electricity its not cheaper just pays off later. And its good for times when you dont have power.)[/quote]
Unfortunately, solar panels are made from plastic which is made from petroleum, and they don't last forever. How could they be replaced? So are the casings for wires. Light weight wind generators on the roof can produce energy also, but I don't know what materials they are made from or if they could be produced without oil or electricity.
[quote]I think it would be cool if everybody made there own energy. We could drive electric cars that got the energy from your own roof or windmill.[/quote]
How about sail-cars? What about being able to change tires to skies when there's snow so the snow doesn't have to be plowed or shoveled? Of course most tires are made from synthetic rubber which is made from petroleum. Natural rubber is made from trees - and I understand they are threatened.
Edited by Orange Blossom, 08 September 2006 - 11:46 PM.