I'll take a stand & defend myself on this, there were several PC's that I upgraded for others prior to the holiday season 2015, there was no word that NVIDIA would release a $300 GPU (the 6GB 1060) that in many games/benchmarks, would slap a 980 (non-TI) around as though a wet paper sack, let alone the more popular 1080/1080 Ti, and the middle of the pack, yet still quite powerful 8GB GDDR5 1070, the variant that I have & renders 4K flawlessly. Even my 1060's performs well on the monitor (will update my sig with the specs, as I have with this PC, top Speccy link). Back to NVIDIA keeping a lid on this in November 2016, there was no word of a 10 series in the news, or at least not widespread, and I do a lot of reading on new tech, as well as receive the NVIDIA newsletter & have been a longtime Forum member, although rarely post. Had there had been rumors of a lower priced card that would outperform the 970/980, I'd had personally advised those I assist to wait for the GTX 1080 release, the first of the series.
To be honest, you didn't read enough new tech if those things you said were really total surprises. No offence. This quote summarizes it all:
We have waited hese 14/16nm cards 4 years now because 20nm parts were cancelled. This 14/16nm manufacturing process is biggest single upgrade ever on GPU's.
Brief history about that. 28nm GPU's launched late 2011 and were available March 2012. Sometime around 2014 there was supposed to be 20nm GPU's available from TSMC or GlobalFoundries, or both. Things went badly, TSMC's process was unsuitable for GPU's and Globalfoundries 20nm process was more or less totally cancelled. Both TSMC and Globalfoundries concentrated on next process, "16nm" for TSMC and "14nm" for Globalfoundries.
OK, let's consider situation on mid 2015, Nvidia launches GTX980Ti. At that time:
- GTX980Ti was using year and half year old architechture
- GTX980Ti was made using almost 4 year old manufacturing process
- Next manufacturing process ("14/16nm") should come "around one year or so" and that process change would be biggest single upgrade ever on GPU tech.
Now, for that GTX1060 part:
there was no word that NVIDIA would release a $300 GPU (the 6GB 1060) that in many games/benchmarks, would slap a 980 (non-TI) around as though a wet paper sack
My previous quote answers this:
Considering that new 14/16nm process gives about 2x power/performance ratio compared to todays 28nm process, AMD or Nvidia have no problem to make card that makes current high end GTX980 lower mid end card very soon.
Reason why this was inevitable is competition. If Nvidia just tells that "OK, we have new 16nm process ready but we rather sell these old 28nm products", AMD have no problem getting whole GPU market as their 14nm GPU's easily trash every 28nm GPU Nvidia can offer. And vice versa. AMD must offer 14nm GPU's or Nvidia grabs whole market.
As you can see, things are not so hard. If you look my quotes, I correctly predicted almost everything right long before 14/16nm products were available. I was also right when I told buying GTX980Ti would be waste of money.
Just like the 9xx series that launched in early 2015, no word, at that time, the 2GB GDDR5 GTX 960 ($200) was considered a lower middle class card, not budget. Today, the GTX 1060 fills the same slot, with pricing for 6GB versions between $249-319, depending on brand. EVGA, being the #1 distributor of NVIDIA cards across the board, has a huge advantage, a loyal fan base which makes NVIDIA that much stronger.
Reason for no word was that GTX900-series was even supposed to be launched. Maxwell cards were supposed to be 20nm tech products, not 28nm. Nvidia then converted Maxwells to 28nm. And as I said at that time, GTX970 was not good buy as it lacked features for future and was made using antique 28nm process.
Anyone who thinks that a Radeon RX 580 can take on the NVIDIA 980 Ti or Titan Xp (a $1,299 card) & come out on top are exactly what you referred to as those who purchased 970/980 cards in late 2015/mid-2016. I agree with your comment in reference to those purchases, why buy the old for more, when the new (& at least 30% more powerful across the board) can be had for far less? A new 9xx anything is now $600 & up, this is for the 960 alone, the 970/980 & 9 series Titan costs even more.
Exactly. And as stated above, that wasn't too hard to predict.
Finally, anyone who feels that NVIDIA will sit back & not fire back are the same, they have lots more on hand cash & resources to stand on the sidelines. AMD had better rejoice that they may have snached the enthusiast CPU market from Intel (who actually told their customers not to OC their 'K' chips). That's pure ignorance at the least, insanity at the worst, for such a statement to be released by Intel. It was they & they only who penny pinched, substituting lower grade thermal paste than we can purchase for $20 (one application), rather than using fluxless solder, the way they built chips for years w/out any troubles. Plus NVIDIA has Intel in their pockets, their graphics are produced by NVIDIA & by Passmark standards, are worse than many performance cards that preceded Windows 7.
I'll agree that the Radeon RX 580 8GB (now the sweet spot for VRAM) will be a good seller & a top line card at release, yet to think that NVIDIA will sit idle on the sidelines & allow AMD to outsell/do them is outright humorous.
It's also to be determined how Linux distros will support the card, if like those of today, these users will be in for another long ride of dealing with whatever drivers that the Linux developers can scrape up. We'll see......
I do feel that for today, the OP would be better served to drop the extra $100 on the GTX 1070, preferably the EVGA FTW + ACX 3.0 variant. With their cards comes EVGA Precision X, of which it's owners has complete control over their cards, lots of settings to choose from, plus the 1070 is a workhorse in it's on right, otherwise, I'd not had dropped $429 on the card, pricing varies between $409-439 (actually $443.99 today), has held it's value quite well since I purchased it. We get what we pay for & can't say enough positives on this 1070 variant.
There are still many people that buy Intel, no matter how bad Intel's products really are. That explains why Intel can do crap with paste.
Problem with GTX1070 and every Nvidia cards is that they are not future proof. As we have seen, AMD cards hold much better on long term. Main reason I haven't bought Nvidia card for years.