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#1 NicoForce

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Posted 05 May 2017 - 12:06 AM

I'm planning on buying a new cpu between $1000-1500, and I'd like to read some opinions for one that can handle pretty much every game.

 

For the last 7 years, I've had a AMD e-350 with no GPU, I believe it's served me well but it's time for a change.


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Posted 06 May 2017 - 12:14 PM

I'm planning on buying a new cpu between $1000-1500, and I'd like to read some opinions for one that can handle pretty much every game.

 

For the last 7 years, I've had a AMD e-350 with no GPU, I believe it's served me well but it's time for a change.

 

I think you should buy a whole new system rather than just the CPU with that much money.



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Posted 06 May 2017 - 04:46 PM

How would a part list like this be?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mR92LD


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Posted 07 May 2017 - 06:14 AM

How would a part list like this be?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mR92LD

Somewhat off-topic
Hey, is this build, that you suggest, able to play all games currently available on max settings?:)

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Posted 07 May 2017 - 06:32 AM

Just a few changes to captain_chicken's build

 

 
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($218.55 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($84.99 @ B&H) 
Storage: Sandisk - X110 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.99 @ My Choice Software) 
Total: $1158.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-07 07:28 EDT-0400
 
Provided you overclock the R5 1600, it should be considerably better value. The stock cooler is also good enough for a high overclock so we don't need an aftermarket cooler
 
In terms of RAM, I picked this out from the list out of all the compatible RAM corsair lists. This is the highest clocked one that they claim can support Ryzen. Reason for this decision was that Ryzen scales well with memory speed resulting in better performance
 
The X110 is a decent MLC SSD which I've only just found thanks to Drillingmachine. Should last longer than that previous one you had.
 
The EVGA NEX is quite an old model made by HEC. The newer G3's are Superflower made which means better quality. 


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Posted 07 May 2017 - 07:36 AM

As usual, I recommend Windows 10 Retail https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wskwrH/microsoft-os-kw900016

And monitor would be what?

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Posted 07 May 2017 - 07:56 AM

As usual, I recommend Windows 10 Retail


What's the difference, mate?:)

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Posted 07 May 2017 - 08:09 AM

These are the main differences

 

https://www.howtogeek.com/198358/whats-the-difference-between-the-system-builder-and-full-version-editions-of-windows/

 

It's probably worth the extra cash.



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Posted 07 May 2017 - 08:26 AM

I understand now. Thank you!:)

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Posted 09 May 2017 - 10:00 AM

 

I'm planning on buying a new cpu between $1000-1500, and I'd like to read some opinions for one that can handle pretty much every game.

 

For the last 7 years, I've had a AMD e-350 with no GPU, I believe it's served me well but it's time for a change.

 

I think you should buy a whole new system rather than just the CPU with that much money.

 

 

By CPU,  I meant a whole new system, that's just the acronym I use for it. I'm sorry if it caused confusion.

 

 

How would a part list like this be?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mR92LD

 

I was aiming for an intel i5 7600k until I learned about the Ryzen, now I'm all in for the r5 1600 shown below. Also, I'm all in for these 3200 Mhz RAM.

 

 

Just a few changes to captain_chicken's build

 

 
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($218.55 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($84.99 @ B&H) 
Storage: Sandisk - X110 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.99 @ My Choice Software) 
Total: $1158.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-07 07:28 EDT-0400
 
Provided you overclock the R5 1600, it should be considerably better value. The stock cooler is also good enough for a high overclock so we don't need an aftermarket cooler
 
In terms of RAM, I picked this out from the list out of all the compatible RAM corsair lists. This is the highest clocked one that they claim can support Ryzen. Reason for this decision was that Ryzen scales well with memory speed resulting in better performance
 
The X110 is a decent MLC SSD which I've only just found thanks to Drillingmachine. Should last longer than that previous one you had.
 
The EVGA NEX is quite an old model made by HEC. The newer G3's are Superflower made which means better quality. 

 

 

I like this build a lot; however, the graphic card is a bit pricey. Wouldn't the r5 1600 cause some bottlenecking?

 

What about combining it with rx470 or sth. I'm looking for videos that shows fps comparison, but I'd love to hear your opinions.

 

Also, I was offered a lot of gtx 1050ti since it's really cheap, but is it worth it, or should I rather go for a 1060?



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Posted 09 May 2017 - 10:15 AM

Yeah if the GTX1070 is too pricey go for the 1060 or 1050Ti

The 1050 Ti is a great GPU for those on a tight budget, and it will be the GPU that would be the bottleneck not the CPU however even with that in mind seems like Ryzen bottlenecks anything but a GTX 1080 and higher due to how powerful it is.

Of course optimizations and updates will even things out, Ryzens future is very promising compared to anything intel right now.

Sure intel Gen 8 is slated to come out soon but I dont think it will offer the same price to performance ratio that Ryzen delivers.


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Posted 09 May 2017 - 11:15 AM

I built this, kind of what I'll buy.

 

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($217.88 @ OutletPC)

Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($107.89 @ OutletPC)

Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($134.49 @ Amazon)

Storage: Kingston - SSDNow V300 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($90.99 @ B&H)

Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING X Video Card  ($259.99 @ Amazon)

Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA GS 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($84.99 @ B&H)

Total: $986.22

 

On the other hand, how do you feel about gtx 1060 vs (rx 570 || rx 580)?

 

I guess I'll keep looking for games fps and benchmarks.



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Posted 09 May 2017 - 11:16 AM

It all depends on your monitor, if it's a 1080p/60Hz monitor then I'd recommend an RX 480 4GB (the 8GB is overkill for 1080p). At 1440p/60Hz or 1080p/144Hz, I'd recommend a GTX 1070 to push those frames.The R5 shouldn't cause any bottlenecking unless the game is very CPU intensive. In future, a strong GPU will allow future Ryzen optimizations to have a full impact on the performance rather than a more standard GPU so if you can afford it, I'd go for it anyhow.

 

The GTX 1050 Ti is a great budget card but your budget allows for something more future proof. The GTX 1060 is a great card but DX 12 support falls behind the RX 570's and 580's.


Edited by Planemaster2, 09 May 2017 - 11:17 AM.


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Posted 09 May 2017 - 11:22 AM

Yeah the only reason why I elected on the GTX 1060 is its driver support over its AMD counterparts.

Even the newer 570's and 80's while better at DX12 still dont have the best driver optimization that Nvidia currently offers.

But you really cant go wrong with either card, but yes the RX570 and 80 are a tad more future proof but not enough for me to regret going with the GTX 1060 as I feel Nvidia still provides better drivers


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Posted 09 May 2017 - 11:25 AM

Here's a few changes to that build

 

 
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($217.88 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($107.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Sandisk - X110 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 580 4GB Gaming 4G Video Card  ($198.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $960.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-09 12:21 EDT-0400
 
RAM: You'll need to stick with the listing Corsair gives for compatible Ryzen RAM as it is quite picky on this http://www.corsair.com/en-us/landing/ryzen
 
Storage: You'll want a good quality MLC drive which is more reliable and should effectively last longer than the low quality TLC drive you picked. I also included bulk 2TB storage as 256GB won't be enough for everything
 
GPU: Better DX 12 support. The 1060 has better driver support because it has been out for longer. AMD should have better drivers as the RX 580 matures. 4GB is more than enough in terms of VRAM for 1080p. 8GB is more oriented to 1080p I'd say.
 
PSU: I'd pick a newer G3 550W power supply for this. Both are good but the G3 pulls ahead a tad.

Edited by Planemaster2, 09 May 2017 - 11:26 AM.





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