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#1 Williamhdc

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Posted 03 May 2017 - 04:48 AM

 
I have a Windows 10 Pro machine which supports virtualization. 
 
I want to create a hyper-V VM running Windows 10 as the guest host. I have some questions on licensing and any activation issues that might occur
I expect I'll need to buy a 2nd Win 10 license
Does it need to be a retail license?
Or can I a buy an OEM license? (I’ll always use the 2nd license for a virtual machine on the same PC but never run more then one VM at a time)
 
If i wanted to create multiple VMs (gen-1 and gen-2) could I use that 2nd license each time? Again, assuming i'll never actually having more then one VM running at a time.
And just curious: Does anyone know if MS simply recognizes 2 licenses both for the same PC? If I did a fresh reinstall in the future, would it make any difference which license i lthen used for the PC and which for the VM?

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Posted 03 May 2017 - 10:46 AM

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Note: Unless you're running a volume-licensed version of Windows, you need a separate license for Windows running inside a virtual machine. The virtual machine's operating system is independent of the host operating system.

 

Please follow the link below for detailed information concerning Hyper-V for Windows 10
 
Hope this helps you
 
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Posted 12 June 2017 - 08:19 PM

Thanks for your discussion in my topic



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Posted 13 June 2017 - 05:36 AM

Legally, yes you will need a separate Windows license if you are running another instance of Windows as a Virtual guest. But if you do not need full functionality then you can use an unlicensed instance of Windows as a virtual guest and it will work just fine. You can actually run an unlicensed virtual guest indefinately, but you do lose certain features of Windows, but in a virtual mode these features might not be that important.

 

Why are you considering Hyper V? Virtualbox by Oracle is a much superior virtual host than Hyper V and its free. Virtualbox will provide many featureas and functions that hyper V does not, and it is way, way smoother.

 

https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads


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Posted 13 June 2017 - 10:26 AM

You can purchase just the product key, it will have to be a retail copy and it must be for the version of Windows 10 you are going to install.


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Posted 13 June 2017 - 10:45 AM

You can purchase just the product key, it will have to be a retail copy and it must be for the version of Windows 10 you are going to install.

 

 

Of course that is the same route as installing Windows 10 to any PC, not just a Virtual machine. I would advise against going this route for a Virtual machine.


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Posted 16 June 2017 - 03:10 AM

Thanks for your discussion in my topic



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Posted 16 June 2017 - 05:30 AM

Which option have you chosen? I just hooked up a new Windows 10 virtual machine two nights ago in a Manjaro system, it is fun and very easy. Last night I changed the Windows 10 from a standard OS to a beta preview version, all without a license.

 

Keep us posted.


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Posted 16 June 2017 - 09:16 AM

Without purchasing the retail VM version the free VM will expire in 30 days.


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Posted 16 June 2017 - 09:47 AM

Without purchasing the retail VM version the free VM will expire in 30 days.

 

 

This is not true at all.


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Posted 16 June 2017 - 10:02 AM

I am so sorry, I am doing too many projects at once and watching my little granddaughter. Without a license, Windows 10 will last forever but you do lose some functionality, as I indicated in post #4 above. Some of the functionality is really not important in a virtual machine, so I would definitely advise against purchasing a license for Windows 10 to run in a virtual machine.

 

I have had one instance of Windows 10 running for 2 years in a virtual machine, it still runs perfectly.


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Posted 16 June 2017 - 11:51 AM

 

 
I have a Windows 10 Pro machine which supports virtualization. 
 
I want to create a hyper-V VM running Windows 10 as the guest host. I have some questions on licensing and any activation issues that might occur
I expect I'll need to buy a 2nd Win 10 license
Does it need to be a retail license?
Or can I a buy an OEM license? (I’ll always use the 2nd license for a virtual machine on the same PC but never run more then one VM at a time)
 
If i wanted to create multiple VMs (gen-1 and gen-2) could I use that 2nd license each time? Again, assuming i'll never actually having more then one VM running at a time.
And just curious: Does anyone know if MS simply recognizes 2 licenses both for the same PC? If I did a fresh reinstall in the future, would it make any difference which license i lthen used for the PC and which for the VM?

 

 

 

Referring back to post number one of this thread, so you want run Windows 10 as both the guest and host? Why? What would that gain you? If you are doing penetration testing I would advise against running Windows 10 as a guest on a Windows 10 host machine.


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Posted 16 June 2017 - 02:26 PM

If penetration testing is the goal, and honestly I can't think of any other reason that a person would consider running Windows 10 as a guest with Windows 10 as the host, then you really need to set up a Linux host installation. With a Windows 10 host, any virus can escape your virtual box and infect your whole system, but with a Linux host and Windows 10 guest, the chance of a virus escaping and infecting the host is almost zero.

 

Definitely post back and tell us what your plans are because there are many folks here that can help you.


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