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#1 SuperSapien64

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 08:17 PM

I can't stand our copyright system today. Now days copyrights are used to protect corporate interest, and they could care less about the content creators/artist.

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/misinterpreting-copyright.html

Copyrights were original created to protect content creators but starting with people like Walt Disney they started bribing our political leaders and courts to artificially extend copyrights to last way beyond the risible lifespans that copyrights originally had. https://priceonomics.com/how-mickey-mouse-evades-the-public-domain/

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/35485

Heck it isn't just copyrights that are being abused but intellectual property protection laws overall that are being abused which includes patents, trademarks & copyrights. Just look at the drug companies and how there artificially inflating the prices of life-saving drugs. https://arstechnica.com/science/2016/06/despite-outcry-over-shkreli-brand-greed-pharma-keeps-raising-drug-prices/

I know two wrongs don't make a right but I really can't feel sorry when people pirate copyrighted media or software unless it's a small publisher/developer I see it as a form of karma but once again I don't condone piracy because two wrongs don't make a right. Getting back on copyrighted media hardly anything enters the public domain anymore this is why for the most part I agree with Richard Stallman on copyrights. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_3i7ZX_Gvk  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eginMQBWII4

We need to reform intellectual property protection laws, make them more fair and risible and balanced so that they benefit everyone and just a few very powerful people.

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 09:29 AM

You are probably thinking of the Japanese system of copyright.. that is a socialist system for popular people.
American copyright just protects the copyright holder which is probably the producer and not the director. 

Intellectual property rights is the one you want not copyright.



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Posted 24 May 2017 - 10:12 PM

Whats wrong with a liberal copyright system? Heck Weird Al has to go through red tape now days just to do a parody. Anyway the Japanese copyright system isn't all that liberal just look no farther then Nintendo and there copyright abuse on YouTube I mean other game companies don't have a tantrum when someone shows gameplay footage of there games (after all it free advertisement) unless someone is showing spoilers shortly after the game comes out then by all means strike the video.



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Posted 06 July 2017 - 02:07 PM

China don't worry about copy right and they drive prices down of the original product so I like china.

I got the chair I wanted for 25 pounds because the cheap knock offs drove the price down and they had to lower the price from 200 to 25. Thanks China now I can sit comfy and content on my old buttocks and eat for the next week.



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Posted 06 July 2017 - 02:22 PM

Because it's linked back to reddit for content. Not sure it's wholly true. But I can see the possibilities. From May of this year.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170501/01170337278/homeowners-house-burns-down-he-tries-to-rebuild-facing-copyright-threats-original-builder.shtml

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#6 SuperSapien64

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Posted 08 July 2017 - 09:16 PM

@ Animal

 

Here's the solution for that problem: https://youtu.be/a8fHgx9mE5U?t=108



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Posted 21 July 2017 - 06:10 PM

I can't keep reading Richard Stallman FUD more than a few lines...

 

"This fundamental decision explains why copyright is not required by the Constitution, only permitted as an option—and why it is supposed to last for “limited times.”" RSM FUD

 

There starts the FUD:

 

"[Congress shall have the power] to promote the Progress of Science and the useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries." US Constitution

 

How can authors and inventors be SECURED the exclusive right if they are not assigned ANY right?

 

That article's title is right 'Misinterpreting copyright. I couldn''t read any further.


Edited by malwaredpc, 21 July 2017 - 06:11 PM.


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Posted 23 July 2017 - 08:10 PM

@ frogbreath

 

Well China is the opposite extreme :rolleyes: , all I want to see is a more fair and balanced copyright system.

 

 

 

 

@ malwaredpc

 

To be honest I didn't read the whole thing myself but I did watch a YouTube video where he explains hes philosophy on copyrights. Basically he thinks copyrights shouldn't last more than 10-20 years and I have to kind of agree with on this because how quickly things spread because of the internet.


Edited by SuperSapien64, 23 July 2017 - 08:12 PM.


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Posted 24 July 2017 - 08:54 AM

But it doesn't matter Internet because if you are  a laboratory, you invest researching, training, testing, go thru lots of controls over years with everydrug and then you need that money back plus more so you can go on researching. In the end, a laboratory is giving something to society, you have to give them something in return-, that is what a society is: if you take from society and don't give, that's stealing; if you take from society and do give, it is call work. That what makes a society progress but also to stick together and that is how humankind do not extinct.


Edited by malwaredpc, 24 July 2017 - 08:55 AM.


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Posted 25 July 2017 - 04:04 PM

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Quote: If you take from society and don't give, that's stealing; if you take from society and do give, it is call work. That what makes a society progress but also to stick together and that is how humankind do not extinct.

 

True but, But look at how some of these pharmaceutical companies are charging exuberant amounts of money (manly US based pharmaceutical companies) for medications. Clearly theres some flaws with our current copyright system. Maybe we need more regulation over certain industries.



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Posted 25 July 2017 - 04:38 PM

You're conflating patents and copyrights, not that there couldn't be changes to either system.


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Posted 29 April 2018 - 08:50 PM

As an artist myself this is a super sore subject for me too, I see it happen daily in my industry and to be frank with you it disgusts me. A LOT of people fail to understand basic copyright, lost of people fail to understand terms like fair use and derivative works as well. They think these terms give them a free for all to use other peoples art and they do not.

 

In addition to this I really hate some patents and trademarks too, things like genes for example being bought means studies can't be done on cures and medicine and so on regarding those drugs, it makes it hell to study anything and impossible to fund studies to completion....and many of these companies patented to either make money or to study an idea they no longer want to...so a lot aren't even being used. It's disgusting to think a company could say they own a part of my body, what next lol.



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Posted 30 April 2018 - 06:43 PM

@ Alunny

 

Yeah I hear ya copy right abuse isn't just perpetrated by corporations but by average people to, we need to have better education about intellectual property protection laws in general.

 

Quote: In addition to this I really hate some patents and trademarks too, things like genes for example being bought means studies can't be done on cures and medicine and so on regarding those drugs, it makes it hell to study anything and impossible to fund studies to completion....and many of these companies patented to either make money or to study an idea they no longer want to...so a lot aren't even being used. It's disgusting to think a company could say they own a part of my body, what next lol.

 

GMO is the DRM of organics. I mean if GMO was really about helping feed the world or to help cure diseases they'd open source it. :rolleyes:



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Posted 30 April 2018 - 09:49 PM

Alunny, this doesn't address copyright, just an aside as you're an artist.

 I once years ago designed a simple logo (never copyrighted) for my business trade which included painting, a simple paint stroke on a card, color teal with a fade to the right.
Many of my customers were in the film industry who had my card. Years later a production company (name shown below on image) used a quite similar logo which, rather than plagiarism, I considered complimentary since I'm retired. Though they changed it somewhat, the size, shape and angle raised my eyebrow for sure. 

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Posted 04 May 2018 - 07:46 PM

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Beautiful logo. :thumbup2:

 

Thats probably what I would have done to, just let it slide especially since it was never copy righted.






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