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Old Laptop won't start I want to access the files on the Hard Drive


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#1 Gibot

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Posted 24 April 2017 - 10:16 PM

Hello,
 
I'm desperately hoping someone/anyone can help me/reassure me. My old laptop won't start and I want preserve the data on the hard drive. 
 
This is my old University laptop and I will be devastated if I have lost the Photos and other documents stored on the hard drive :(
 
It is a Windows XP Sony Vaio. I stopped using it but kept it because I wanted to copy the files but never got around to it. My parents moved it to the garage and after finding it covered in cobwebs I cleaned and it started but went to a black screen with white text saying something about a boot device an pressing any key. I turned it off and went to the house and now it won't turn on at all.
 
Can I remove the hard drive and plug it into another PC to get the files?
 
If so how would I go about this? If not what are my options? I had a password login so would that affect access to the files?
 
Thanks in advance for your help


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Posted 24 April 2017 - 10:35 PM

Pull your hard drive out of the laptop. Determine if IDE or SATA hard drive?

IDE http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/i/ide.htm
SATA http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/s/sata.htm

Use a HDD Docking Stations https://www.startech.com/au/HDD/Docking/
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SATA to 2.5in or 3.5in IDE Hard Drive Adapter for HDD Docks. https://www.startech.com/au/HDD/Adapters/SATA-to-IDE-Hard-Drive-Adapter-for-HDD-Docks~SAT2IDEADP

How do I connect an IDE drive to SATA? http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch001599.htm

Good luck.
 

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Posted 25 April 2017 - 06:25 AM

i have one of these for last 6 yrs and works well on Ide Sata , via Usb , and Powered.

https://www.amazon.com/Drive-Adapter-Converter-Optical-External/dp/B002OV1VJW/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_147_lp_img_4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=TB73M8BR9FCHW9YPKFJ1

 

Connect the Drive to a working PC , explore the drive for files.

 

Any Folders that may be locked or inaccesible , you may need to boot from Linux Distro { Knoppix } or others to gain access that way.

Download an ISO , burn to Disc , and boot from it , explore the Drive again.



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Posted 25 April 2017 - 09:24 AM

 

You and me both!   I've been using this style of USB drive connection for data transfer and attempted recovery for years now.

 

I can't see the point in getting an enclosure for a one-off activity.  If you make sure you're working on a static free surface, such as cotton cloth or a glass table top or similar, you don't have any issues with the drives working just fine.   If they're laptop drives you don't even need the external power source.  A cheap and effective product that, were you so inclined, you could feel free to donate to a thrift store when you are done with it and feel no great financial loss.


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#5 JohnC_21

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Posted 25 April 2017 - 09:33 AM

I also have one of these. Inexpensive and works like a charm on both IDE and SATA drives.



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Posted 25 April 2017 - 03:20 PM

+1.  Inexpensive, easy, way to go for those infrequent instances where you want access to data on a different working drive.

 

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Posted 25 April 2017 - 03:29 PM

Thank you for your advice. I'll order one and see how it goes. I'm still worried that because I had a password login to XP I won't be able to access the files.. 

 

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Posted 25 April 2017 - 03:36 PM

A password login to Windows...is of no import to accessing data files, at any time.  The password exists to discourage/defeat autologin to users...nothing more.

 

The only problem I could possibly envision accessing files can probably be overcome by taking ownership of the files.

 

Worth A Look.

 

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Posted 25 April 2017 - 04:52 PM

I have always been able to access all files on external drives by taking ownership via Windows, and it will prompt you when that's necessary.


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Posted 26 April 2017 - 07:15 AM

Taking Ownership as stated above works fine.

I just prefer booting from a Linux Distro { Knoppix } and go and grab what you want from the Drive.

 

As for Password Login Xp , thats within a windows enviroment / Booting Linux isnt.

 

Let us know how you go and which method suited you.



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Posted 26 April 2017 - 08:31 AM

Taking Ownership as stated above works fine.

I just prefer booting from a Linux Distro { Knoppix } and go and grab what you want from the Drive.

 

 

 

And I have nothing against booting from a Linux Distro if you know how to do so or are an adventurous soul who takes a couple of minutes to research how you do so and what to expect.

 

I've just found that a lot of folks (no matter what their "native" operating system may be) tend to freeze when confronted something that's even slightly outside their personal comfort zone.

 

If the drive is large and there's a lot of data the Linux solution can definitely be faster as it can take Windows quite a while to take ownership of a vast number of files.


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     . . . the presumption of innocence, while essential in the legal realm, does not mean the elimination of common sense outside it.  The willing suspension of disbelief has its limits, or should.

    ~ Ruth Marcus,  November 10, 2017, in Washington Post article, Bannon is right: It’s no coincidence The Post broke the Moore story


 

 

 

              

 


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Posted 27 April 2017 - 11:56 AM

yep.  pull the hard drive and put it in a HD dock.  hopefully it's still readable.



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Posted 29 April 2017 - 02:29 AM

I'm still worried that because I had a password login to XP I won't be able to access the files.


If you have encrypted any files on that hard drive using the Encrypting File System, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encrypting_File_System then these files WILL NOT be accessible.
 

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