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#1 Storantom

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 09:10 PM

I got my computer prebuilt (stupid, I know.  I just know nothing about building) in 2011.  Here are the specs
 

CPU: Intel Core i5-3579K CPU @ 3.40GHz-3.80GHz
GPU: AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series
RAN: Corsair XMS3 1600mz 8G DDR3
MOBO:Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H
PSU: Xtreme Gear 600W ATX Power Supply
FANS: Cooler Master A12025-12CB-3BNF1 in the rear, a fan over my graphics card that said MSI and a fan over my CPU that says Asetek
Case - Cooler Master Elite 431 Mid-Tower (build in disc drive)
bleepty 2004 monitor
 
I've never upgraded but now I want to slowly upgrade part by part until I have a beast that can dominate 1440p.  I currently have a 720p bleep 2004 free monitor, so that needs to be upgraded too.  What should I upgrade in what order?
 
My thoughts are 

Graphics Card: GTX 1070 $400 or GTX 1080 $500
Power Supply: CORSAIR CX-M series CX750M 750W 80 PLUS BRONZE Haswell Ready ATX12V & EPS12V Modular Power Supply
RAM: Optional now, do in 1-2 years though
CPU: Optional now, do in 1-2 years though
Overclock? Upgrade cooling on top of CPU before attempt because I don't know what it is right now

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 03:30 AM

To upgrade RAM or CPU, you'll need new motherboard too (i7-3770K is not worthwhile upgrade). Also upgrading DDR3 is not recommended after 1-2 years.

Based on your demands, I recommend you sell whole system and build new one from scratch. System is 6 years old so investing hugely in it makes no sense IMO. Also whole system is not so hard to sell.

I'd also recommend waiting for AMD Vega, as it will bring more competition on high end and lower prices too.

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 05:54 AM

I agree with Drillingmachine, starting over from scratch may be a better idea.  How much are you willing to spend with this build?


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 01:01 PM

$1200 to $1500 PC, any amount up to $500 monitor. What could I sell the PC for? Why is upgrading DDR3 not recommend? Is it obsolete?
It'd take me 2 years to save enough for a whole new rig, which is why I considered upgrading until everything's been replaced

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 01:31 PM

DDR3 is obsolete and right now very expensive. Also LGA1155 motherboards are hard to find, another reason not to upgrade.

You probably can sell your current machine for couple of hundred $. Depends on hard disk, OS, condition etc.

How much you have money right now?

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 01:44 PM

$0 for a PC, gotta start saving now. I no longer play guitar and I could sell one for $100 and get $50 somewhere else, sell the PC for maybe $300-$400 at the end of the build, pick up extra hours to save $100 a week

I was thinking upgrade even if it's not the most cost effective so I can keep gaming now while I get parts over time but if that really makes no common sense which I doubt it does then starting from scratch I'll do. To dominate 1440p would $1500 for a computer and $500 for a monitor be enough?
Might 1080p be similar enough to not notice a difference for maybe 4 years and spend less money, considering it'll depreciate fast and there'll be better tech in the future should I just spend $1000 on a PC and maybe $300 on a 1080 monitor and wait for 1440 and 4k to get cheaper down the road?


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 02:58 PM

I would say around $800 for PC and $200 for monitor is enough for purely gaming PC for 1080p. I recommend that option. That PC can be upgraded later of course to handle 1440/4K. Right now 1440/4K stuff is very expensive.

So I would save around $1000 (including what you can get from old machine) and then build new one.

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 03:17 PM

At what point would upgrading a $1000 rig for higher resolutions become necessary to keep up so that I don't end up in a situation like this again?

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 03:41 PM

Here's a quick example of $1150 rig (monitor included, $70 reserved for case) that can be upgraded later. After about 2 years (or eawrlier) following changes:

- CPU to second or third generation 6/8 core Ryzen, currently unknown what it would exactly be
- Another 8GB memory
- Better video card for 1440/4K
- Better monitor for 1440/4K

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($166.94 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME X370-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($158.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($55.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Mushkin Reactor 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($66.50 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 470 4GB Red Dragon Video Card ($148.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($88.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit ($106.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: AOC G2260VWQ6 21.5" 1920x1080 75Hz Monitor ($115.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1078.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-20 16:37 EDT-0400

Edited by Drillingmachine, 20 April 2017 - 03:42 PM.


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 04:09 PM

You sir are a gentleman and a scholar. Thank you for all your help and advice.
Should this fit in the midtower case I already have?
Will the power supply be enough when it's upgraded?

Edited by Storantom, 20 April 2017 - 06:38 PM.


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 05:51 AM

The good news is you can reuse your case and optical drive.  You could also reuse your power supply and hard drives if they are less than five years old.  Right now, a 600W power supply is enough for a single graphics card, but if you decide to add another, you may want to get more than that.  I would also get the Pro version of Windows 10 if you can afford it due to some of the extra configuration options.  AMD will also be releasing the Vega series of graphics cards soon, so you could wait and see what that does to prices.  Alternatively, the Radeon RX 5xx series was just released and you could get an RX 570, but it is only about 10% faster than an RX 470 in some games.


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 06:50 AM

You sir are a gentleman and a scholar. Thank you for all your help and advice.
Should this fit in the midtower case I already have?
Will the power supply be enough when it's upgraded?


Coolermaster case is not very modern, so I recommend new one. You can use it if you want but selling whole system is much easier than selling parts stripped from case.

That 650W power supply is enough for even two graphic cards (excluding dual chip and ultra expensive cards), I highly doubt you will ever get those. Power consumptions are not rising, but getting lower. If you still want to be sure you can put 2 graphic cards, then 750W version is not much more expensive https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MfJwrH/evga-power-supply-220g20750xr

Edited by Drillingmachine, 21 April 2017 - 06:52 AM.





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