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Malwarebytes being dected as another AV? and question about Cisco Opendns?


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#1 auto1571

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Posted 05 April 2017 - 04:26 PM

Hi, upon looking at the security status via control panel it says I have multiple AVs on and active. However all I have on now is just Emsisoft Anti-Malware and Malwarebytes but Malwarebytes is not an Antivirus. Im guessing it's safe to ignore this then?

 

As for the Cisco Opendns I want to know if it is okay to use the integrated malware protection or would that cause conflict with Emsisoft and MBAM? 

 

I also am now just using the Windows Firewall and no other Firewall.



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Posted 05 April 2017 - 06:00 PM

Quote from Malwarebytes site re version 3.0 at https://www.sevenforums.com/software/325669-new-versions-simple-winpe-maker.html .

 

Reads to me as if...everyone and anyone should consider the 3.0 version an AV program and act accordingly.

 

Prior versions of Malwarebytes should only be considered as antimalware programs, IMO.

 

Yes, Speccy picks them all up as AV in its statistical listing of system defenses...but only the 3.0 version is trumpedted as capable of replacing another existing installed AV.

 

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Posted 05 April 2017 - 06:10 PM

 Louis I do have the latest version of MBAM and so it's safe to igore what the security status says then? Also what about Cisco OpenDNS? Thanks.



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Posted 05 April 2017 - 07:55 PM

You will have to await a response from one of the regulars in this forum.

 

Only reason I addressed the Malwarebytes/Speccy questions...is that I use Speccy a lot in my efforts to solve situations in the O/S and hardware forums and I see a lot of Speccy Snapshots.

 

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Posted 06 April 2017 - 02:11 AM

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/636274/is-malwarebytes-enough/#entry4152213


All viruses are malware but not all malware are viruses and if the malware doesn't self replicate it just isn't a virus.


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Posted 06 April 2017 - 06:15 AM

This is the most current explanation by David H. Lipman, a trusted Security Colleague and Malware Researcher/Analyst.

MBAM is not an anti virus application and does not replace an an anti virus application. MBAM is an adjunct, complimentary, anti malware application.

In its role as a adjunct, complimentary, anti malware application it has limitations in aspects that the anti virus application performs in its role. MBAM does not target script files...It also does not target document files...media files...MBAM targets mainly non-viral malware. The exception being a virus dropper (a malware file that drops a virus and starts a virus infection but is not infected with the virus) and worms (such as Internet worms and AutoRun worms). MBAM is incapable of removing malicious code that has been prepended, appended or cavity injected into a legitimate file. That means if a file infecting virus infects a legitimate file MBAM will be unable to remove the malicious code...MBAM is not a historical anti malware solution. That means it will not target old malware. It's intent is to target 0-Day malware. Malware that is infecting computers Today with malware found in-the-wild, Today...With all the things that that MBAM can not do, it is not an anti virus application and it remains an anti malware application which relegates it to its complimentary position.


Dave provides the same explanation in this topic at Malwarebytes where he provides assistance on the forums board.

That indicates to me that Malwarebytes 3.0 Premium is still better served as an adjunct anti-malware solution to complement and strengthen your protection when utilizing a traditional anti-virus solution.
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Posted 06 April 2017 - 03:31 PM

This is the most current explanation by David H. Lipman, a trusted Security Colleague and Malware Researcher/Analyst.

MBAM is not an anti virus application and does not replace an an anti virus application. MBAM is an adjunct, complimentary, anti malware application.

In its role as a adjunct, complimentary, anti malware application it has limitations in aspects that the anti virus application performs in its role. MBAM does not target script files...It also does not target document files...media files...MBAM targets mainly non-viral malware. The exception being a virus dropper (a malware file that drops a virus and starts a virus infection but is not infected with the virus) and worms (such as Internet worms and AutoRun worms). MBAM is incapable of removing malicious code that has been prepended, appended or cavity injected into a legitimate file. That means if a file infecting virus infects a legitimate file MBAM will be unable to remove the malicious code...MBAM is not a historical anti malware solution. That means it will not target old malware. It's intent is to target 0-Day malware. Malware that is infecting computers Today with malware found in-the-wild, Today...With all the things that that MBAM can not do, it is not an anti virus application and it remains an anti malware application which relegates it to its complimentary position.


Dave provides the same explanation in this topic at Malwarebytes where he provides assistance on the forums board.

That indicates to me that Malwarebytes 3.0 Premium is still better served as an adjunct anti-malware solution to complement and strengthen your protection when utilizing a traditional anti-virus solution.

 

 

 

So Emisoft Anti-Malware and MBAM premium should be fine to work alongside each other as well as the integrated malware protection from Cisco OpenDNS?



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Posted 06 April 2017 - 03:36 PM

I don't use OpenDNS but I have been using Emsisoft and Malwarebytes Premium for years without any issues.
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