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#1 jay_nation

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Posted 05 September 2006 - 04:54 AM

Dear All,

Please does anyone have any ideas???? Help needed with three probs.

1. I have built my new system last week and have been using it for the last 3 days without any problems. I did however have an intermittent start-up problem where the system would power up (fans, drives etc) the last two days but windows/dos would not boot and the monitor says 'no signal'.

2. In addition to this the system began to refuse to shut down so I would have to force the power off (the screen would state 'windows is shutting down but would not).

3. The last problem I also attempted to install my TV card which I would simply slot into a free slot. Then I would restart and the system would not boot (just fans, and drives on like the current problem) so I would remove the card. (is this related to this new problem)

This is the system:

Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 S775, 2.13Gh
Asrock CONROEXFIRE-ESATA2, i945P
2GB (2X1GB) Corsair Value Select
160 Gb Western Digital WD1600JS
Samsung Black 16x DVD-ROM (40x CD-R )
Samsung SH-S182DB/BEBN Black 18x18
1.44Mb Sony Black Floppy Disk Drive
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
Enermax CS-527 Black Midi Tower Case
580W HiperPower Type-R Modular Blue
Leadtek WinFast DTV1000 T Digital TV card

Before these problems I installed the up to date Bios drivers and installed windows xp home and it was fully updated.

To combat this problem I would simply reboot (power off/on) and eventually it would work. Anyway yesterday I attempted to power up and this time I have not been able to! I have checked the following:

Power system which it ok
Removed motherboard and rebuilt system
Checked everything secure including chip and heat sink (running temp in BIOS was fine checked when built)
All internal/external cables etc ok and the board is powered in each area.
The graphics card is powered

Any ideas would be most appreciated as I am sure everything is operating normally.

Many thanks

Jay_nation

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Posted 05 September 2006 - 10:23 AM

Startup:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechn.../c29621675.mspx
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308041/EN-US/

Shutdown:
http://aumha.org/win5/articles.htm
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Posted 05 September 2006 - 10:55 AM

Many thanks this is most helpful information.

To add to this i have had local specialised PC shop look a the tower, they have tested all the parts and the build outside the case/tower and it is running perfectly.

When they reintroduced to mother board and parts to case the system is shorting out and will not boot.

They advised me to change the case/tower.

Anyone agree? Or could this be a bigger problem?

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Posted 07 September 2006 - 10:35 AM

Well, it seems to me that it the board is shorting out on the case there are 2 solutions:

1) Insulate the board/modify the case to stop it from shorting out.
2) Buy a new case.

Depending on the quality of the old case is what I'd base my decision on. I have an old steel case that I bought back in the 1990's that I won't give up - so I modify it rather than get a new one.
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Posted 07 September 2006 - 11:18 AM

Thanks for the advice Usamsa,

I got home form work last night and attempted to fault find on the components removing them from the case one by one.

The system would not boot till i completely removed all components and rebuilt on my worktop(not conductive).

The system booted normally and operated fine outside the case.

I also detected a dry joint on the top of the motherboard around the serial/printer ports which would caused the system to not boot when disturbed.

I contacted the store today and they will refund me for bothe the case and the board so I should be up and running at the weekend.

Many thanks for your advise, in the end it was a couple of faults - thanks God i found them!




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