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#1 masterwayne10

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Posted 02 April 2017 - 11:44 AM

Hi,

 

I've posted this thread on TSR (https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=4624438) but have only received responses from one user who has been very helpful and suggested I create a thread here as well as to get some more recommendations.

 

Laptop or Desktop?

 

I would prefer a laptop but would consider a desktop computer if one can be found at a good price and under or within my budget.

My budget for the new computer is:

 

£400 to £500. There might be some leeway here but ideally I would prefer a laptop/computer under £500.

What are the primary uses for this computer (IE: mail, web browsing, programming, games, etc)?

 

Checking emails, web browsing, using Microsoft Office applications (specifically Word and PowerPoint).

What software do you intend on using on the computer?

 

I do not intend to use any software on my computer except for AVG anti virus (which I currently have installed on my laptop).

Do you play games? If so, what type of games?

 

I used to play Rome Total War and Football Manager on my old desktop computer and at one point on my current laptop but haven't played any computer games for more than 4-5 years. I guess in some way it would be good if I was able to play both of these games on my new laptop/computer but I'm honestly not too bothered. I've never really used my laptop/computer for gaming as I've always had my game console for that.

Do you tend to have a lot of programs running at the same time, or do you close every program when you are done using it?

 

I multi-task when web browsing so tend to have multiple tabs running but do not usually have lots of different programs running. I almost always close a program once I'm done using it. I do, of course, have my AVG anti virus software installed on my laptop so I'm not sure if this means it is running in the background or whether it's just a anti virus software/program that's installed and only in use when running scans on my laptop.

Do you store a lot of pictures or music on the computer?

 

Yes, I store a lot of photos and music files on my laptop.

Will you be overclocking?

 

I had to Google what this meant but still don't quite understand exactly what this is. Anyway, no, I will not be overclocking.

Location for online shopping/shipment/prices?

 

I'm from the UK so UK prices/links please, if possible.

How many monitors are you planning to use?

 

Just the one main monitor on the laptop/desktop computer.

Do you need peripherals? OS?

 

Not sure what exactly this means but I do have a printer installed on my laptop.

Any particular reason why you are upgrading?

 

Recently, I noticed that whenever I closed my internet browser, my laptop would suffer from the "blue screen of death" and then restart. Thankfully, this hasn't happened for a couple of weeks now but it did happen 2/3 times about less than a month ago. It's also gotten slower in terms of booting/shutting down times - it sometimes takes a while for my laptop to start and shut down. However, that aside, my laptop is still running perfectly fine but I would like to look at some laptops/computers and have some options in place should I have to replace my current laptop.

 

All responses will be much appreciated.

 

Thank you.



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Posted 02 April 2017 - 01:50 PM

Looking at that thread, it appears you don't use the portability of your current laptop much. What makes you prefer a laptop to a desktop when a desktop would do a better job at this price?



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Posted 02 April 2017 - 04:01 PM

Looking at that thread, it appears you don't use the portability of your current laptop much. What makes you prefer a laptop to a desktop when a desktop would do a better job at this price?

 

I honestly just prefer the fact that it is portable and can be taken out and about should I ever need to take it away on travel etc. However, although space might be a bit of an issue, I think I can definitely try and fit a desktop computer on my desk so I would certainly consider a desktop computer if it's definitely better than a laptop in that price range.



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Posted 03 April 2017 - 07:00 AM

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Chromebook-CB3-131-C3SZ-11-6-Inch-Dual-Core/dp/B01J42JPJG/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1491220721&sr=1-3&keywords=chromebook&th=1

 

Check out this chromebook it should be way under budget and since you dont play games the best for you.

 

Now if you want windows

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-15-6-Inch-Touchscreen-RealSense-Bluetooth/dp/B01D27ERMO/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1491220813&sr=1-5&keywords=dell

 

This should be more than you need has a touchscreen and everything

 

Let me know what you will purchase



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Posted 03 April 2017 - 09:16 AM

@alexoler

 

Thanks for the suggestions although I'm not interested in a chromebook. As for that Dell laptop, it doesn't seem to be available in some of the UK major retailers. I haven't found it on Amazon UK, for instance.



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Posted 03 April 2017 - 09:30 AM

Add to your choice an affordable reliable backup/restore external media, along with Macrium Reflect or anything similar -- you will then have routine backups of your good stuff.


"Take care of thy backups and thy restores shall take care of thee."  -- Ben Franklin revisited.

http://collegecafe.fr.yuku.com/forums/45/Computer-Technologies/

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Posted 03 April 2017 - 10:20 AM

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Do you mean things like Google Cloud etc or external hard drives for storing important files? If so, I do use my USBs to store and save important files.



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Posted 03 April 2017 - 10:49 AM

Although a proper backup tool would save all your files. For example, my Windows 10 OS saves a file history (All personal files) to my USB stick every hour. It's certainly not the greatest backup tool and I would much prefer to do a full backup every week but it is better than nothing.



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Posted 03 April 2017 - 11:00 AM

Although a proper backup tool would save all your files. For example, my Windows 10 OS saves a file history (All personal files) to my USB stick every hour. It's certainly not the greatest backup tool and I would much prefer to do a full backup every week but it is better than nothing.

 

Fair enough. Can I ask for your opinion on getting a laptop vs a desktop computer? For me, one issue that I've found is desktop computers nowadays don't come the way they used to 8-9 years ago. I remember you could buy a hard drive, computer, keyboard and mouse altogether for a set price but everywhere I look most now come separately. So, you would have to buy a hard drive separately and then purchase a monitor separately etc.



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Posted 03 April 2017 - 11:37 AM

@RolandJS

Do you mean things like Google Cloud etc or external hard drives for storing important files? If so, I do use my USBs to store and save important files.

USB sticks will be ok, I recommend rotating two of them, dual backups.  If one stick develops a "logical" problem, forcing a format, you have the 2nd stick still.


"Take care of thy backups and thy restores shall take care of thee."  -- Ben Franklin revisited.

http://collegecafe.fr.yuku.com/forums/45/Computer-Technologies/

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Posted 03 April 2017 - 01:33 PM

 

 

Fair enough. Can I ask for your opinion on getting a laptop vs a desktop computer? For me, one issue that I've found is desktop computers nowadays don't come the way they used to 8-9 years ago. I remember you could buy a hard drive, computer, keyboard and mouse altogether for a set price but everywhere I look most now come separately. So, you would have to buy a hard drive separately and then purchase a monitor separately etc.

 

 

The monitor is usually separate but the Hard Drive should definitely come with the PC. The main reason for a separate monitor is that most people re-use their old monitor. Personally, I've never heard of a computer that doesn't come with a hard drive, if you mind, could you send a link to the one that came without a hard drive? Just intriguing me if I'm honest.

 

In terms of getting a Laptop versus a Desktop, a desktop is the better choice if you aren't going to use the portability of a laptop. Desktops last longer and are upgrade-able whilst laptops aren't meaning less costs in the future where you'd buy a new set of parts rather than a whole new computer.

 

Laptops are incredibly useful in terms of portability although if you had a specific task in mind that is hard on computer resources then it will cost significantly more. For example, gaming. If I wanted a gaming desktop, I'd spend about £500 on one at the cheapest point. Proper gaming laptops start at around £700 - £800. For your use, a simple laptop would be fine at around £500.

 

Here is quite a nice laptop for your needs http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/hp-250-g5-core-i5-6200u-8gb-256gb-ssd-dvd-rw-15.6-inch-windows-10-laptop-x0q78es/version.asp

 

We'll start from here and see what everyone else thinks.


Edited by Planemaster2, 03 April 2017 - 01:40 PM.


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Posted 03 April 2017 - 02:07 PM

 

 

 

Fair enough. Can I ask for your opinion on getting a laptop vs a desktop computer? For me, one issue that I've found is desktop computers nowadays don't come the way they used to 8-9 years ago. I remember you could buy a hard drive, computer, keyboard and mouse altogether for a set price but everywhere I look most now come separately. So, you would have to buy a hard drive separately and then purchase a monitor separately etc.

 

 

The monitor is usually separate but the Hard Drive should definitely come with the PC. The main reason for a separate monitor is that most people re-use their old monitor. Personally, I've never heard of a computer that doesn't come with a hard drive, if you mind, could you send a link to the one that came without a hard drive? Just intriguing me if I'm honest.

 

In terms of getting a Laptop versus a Desktop, a desktop is the better choice if you aren't going to use the portability of a laptop. Desktops last longer and are upgrade-able whilst laptops aren't meaning less costs in the future where you'd buy a new set of parts rather than a whole new computer.

 

Laptops are incredibly useful in terms of portability although if you had a specific task in mind that is hard on computer resources then it will cost significantly more. For example, gaming. If I wanted a gaming desktop, I'd spend about £500 on one at the cheapest point. Proper gaming laptops start at around £700 - £800. For your use, a simple laptop would be fine at around £500.

 

Here is quite a nice laptop for your needs http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/hp-250-g5-core-i5-6200u-8gb-256gb-ssd-dvd-rw-15.6-inch-windows-10-laptop-x0q78es/version.asp

 

We'll start from here and see what everyone else thinks.

 

 

Thanks for the suggestion. Although the HP laptop looks like good value, I think I would prefer getting an Acer/Asus laptop. What are HP laptops like? Do they last a long time or not? I've always said to myself that if I had to replace my current Acer laptop, I would stick with the same brand as it's been an excellent laptop for my needs over the last 8 years.

 

Have a look at the following (regarding desktop PCs without hard drives/actual computer):

 

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/317_3055_30057_xx_ba00010707-bv00308577%7Cbv00308580%7Cbv00308581/xx-criteria.html

 

Strangely, only a few "complete" computers available on sale that come with the hard drive, keyboard and mouse.



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Posted 03 April 2017 - 02:46 PM

I think the longevity of laptops depends more on the user as opposed to the brands. For example, Toshiba isn't recognized for quality but my Toshiba laptop lasted for almost 10 years before breaking which is pretty good for a laptop. The main thing that breaks in laptops is the hard drive. Accidentally drop the laptop and the hard drive may break which ruins your OS and important files. The SSD in that laptop should make it last assuming it has a high TBW.

 

Nowadays, most people prefer just the tower as they save costs from reusing the monitor and keyboard+mouse. PC World has never been a great company in my opinion, I've always had trouble with them when buying something remotely expensive so I've pretty much given up on them.



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Posted 03 April 2017 - 03:53 PM

@Planemaster2

 

I see what you mean. I guess that makes sense.

 

I asked about the following laptops in my thread on TSR so I thought I would provide the links here as well to get some feedback.

 

What do you think about the following? Which one would be best for my needs?

 

http://www.argos.co.uk/product/5323397?utm_campaign=10830324&cmpid=COJUN&cjsurferid=878803554445193149%3Aznt46hfTByxe&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_content=Skimlinks&utm_source=CJ&catalogId=10001&DM_PersistentCookieCreated=true&storeId=10151&_%24ja=tsid%3A11674%7Cprd%3A7879661&utm_term=2617611&referredURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.argos.co.uk%2Fproduct%2F5323397&referrer=COJUN

 

http://www.argos.co.uk/product/5491968?cmpid=COJUN&utm_campaign=10830324&cjsurferid=878803554445193149%3Aznt46hfTByxe&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_content=Skimlinks&utm_source=CJ&catalogId=10001&storeId=10151&_%24ja=tsid%3A11674%7Cprd%3A7879661&utm_term=2617611&referredURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.argos.co.uk%2Fproduct%2F5491968&referrer=COJUN

 

http://www.argos.co.uk/product/6516701?cmpid=COJUN&utm_campaign=10830324&cjsurferid=878803554445193149%3Aznt46hfTByxe&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_content=Skimlinks&utm_source=CJ&catalogId=10001&storeId=10151&_%24ja=tsid%3A11674%7Cprd%3A7879661&utm_term=2617611&referredURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.argos.co.uk%2Fproduct%2F6516701&referrer=COJUN

 

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-aspire-e5-475-14-laptop-grey-10157735-pdt.html?awc=1599_1491252439_d81f6761c696bd7b46ea97620325150b&srcid=369&xtor=AL-1&cmpid=aff~Skimlinks~Editorial%20Content~78888&awid=78888

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-Zenbook-UX310UA-Notebook-i3-6100U/dp/B01HIWOTGS



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Posted 04 April 2017 - 01:23 AM

They are all pretty good value (apart from the Amazon one) and out of them, I would pick the E5-E575 but i5 and i7's will perform much the same. In the other suggestions, I couldn't help but notice this one: http://www.argos.co.uk/product/6746416?rec=webRespPDP:5323397:alt:CWVTPUBOOT:6746416

 

It's and i3 but the difference between them in laptops is minimal as they are both dual cores with hyperthreading (hyperthreading ensures one core can work on two tasks at the same time). This one, however, has a nice 256 GB SSD and as you aren't really gaming, it should be more than enough storage for things such as Microsoft Office. Here are the benchmarks for the CPU's http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-6200U-vs-Intel-Core-i3-7100U/m36796vsm176913

 

With basic office tasks, the thing users notice the most is an SSD. SSD's consume less power meaning better battery and they are much faster so it gets rid of the pauses when opening files which really does make the computer feel fast. They are less liable to break when dropped as there are no moving components.


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