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#1 TMacK

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Posted 04 September 2006 - 12:07 PM

I experienced a huge computer crash (total reinstall) over the weekend,you may have read my thread in the WinXP Forum.So far I on board I have reinstalled AVG Free,ZoneAlarm Firewall,Ewido & Ad-Aware.Didn't have an installer backup for Spybot,and was actually contemplating switching to Spywareblaster instead.I've seen people with both,but wonder if its redundant having Spybot and Spywareblaster.On the other hand,you can never be too safe!
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Posted 04 September 2006 - 01:00 PM

SpywareBlaster and Spybot are complementary. In fact, I installed SpywareBlaster at the suggestion of Spybot. SpywareBlaster is excellent in preventing malicious activeX and bad tracking cookies from getting on your computer in the first place. Unlike Spybot, it cannot be used to scan.

You can read more about SpywareBlaster, how it works and what it does here

And about Spybot here

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Posted 05 September 2006 - 07:33 AM

Spybot also has several good utilities that can be very useful. If you have limited hard drive space, I would think that Spybot should be chosen over SpywareBlaster.
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Posted 05 September 2006 - 12:00 PM

I know these kind of questions aren't popular,so appreciate your replies.
When I ran Spybot before I didn't install TeaTimer or Backup my Registry.I was in the process of getting rid of a virus and guess we only needed the bare bones at the time.
So many people seem to have issues with the TeaTimer option.Generally what are they?
I don't have a shortage of space on my HD jgweed,but being on dial up,I have a shortage of time to D/L! :thumbsup:
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Posted 05 September 2006 - 01:57 PM

To be honest TMacK, i use TeaTimer and have never experienced a problem with it (Knock on wood). I know some dont like to use it because it pops up everytime you install or delete a programme informing you of a registry change.Due to it running in the background, it also use a little bit of system resources.

But for me, id sooner know whats happening than have that extra mili-second of speed. If you do install it, you can always turn it off if its not for you.

Like always though, wait to see what others say. It maybe that they have experienced problems when running TeaTimer and tell you about it.
I find it handy in my prevention to malware, thats why i use it, and will continue to do so.

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Edited by graveangel, 05 September 2006 - 01:59 PM.

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Posted 08 September 2006 - 05:32 PM

Thanx for your reply graveangel,
Like you,I do want to know whats happening,but I don't want to do more damage than good because of ignorance! Have read of people deleting things they shouldn't have in Spybot and totally messing up their OS. I definitely have to work on getting my computer self confidence back up! Posted ImageThat crash really caught me off guard,but I really must get back up and running with full protection.
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Posted 08 September 2006 - 08:47 PM

Since I do not use IE, I do not use teatimer. There has been a documented problem with the TT popup window itself popping up with parts of it hidden. I have not read of any problems, however, with how the application functioned.
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Posted 08 September 2006 - 11:21 PM

So that clears up a question I had jgweed.The only time I use IE is for Windows updates,so then I really don't need to use the Teatimer option,right?
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Posted 08 September 2006 - 11:56 PM

Tea-Timer watches for changes to the registry; however, I don't use Tea-Timer because I use Ad-Watch which I prefer. When my term of free usage comes up though, I'll probably switch to Tea-Timer.

Counterspy by SunBelt also has an active registry change watch. Unfortunately, it's payware. I didn't have any problems seeing its pop-up alerts.

ZoneAlarm Operating System firewall, which is part of its firewall, watches registry changes to a certain extent. I don't think it's as good as Tea-Timer, Ad-Watch, or Counterspy in this aspect. ZoneAlarm also does not distinguish between a program wanting to place a key in "run" or "run-once" in its alerts. Additionally, while it logs attempts to change its own program, it doesn't send up alerts.

You can always google the program that wants to make the change to find out if it's legit before accepting the registry change regardless of what program you use.

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Posted 09 September 2006 - 12:12 AM

Since we are in football season, I can use "after further review...." here; according to some, teatimer is not browser-specific:

http://forums.spybot.info/showthread.php?p=28338#post28338

However, I cannot find specific information either way( even after checking the Spybot site) so we are in an aporetic situation unless some other member can provide definitive information. I can say for sure that to the extent that TT involves protecting your computer from ActiveX problems, it is unneeded because Ff does not use ActiveX controls.

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Posted 09 September 2006 - 12:33 AM

Ah, but Tea-Timer does more than watch for Active-X. It watches for any registry changes. While it may be annoying to have the alerts pop-up when installing programs, it is great to have it when a key-logger, rootkit, or something else tries to change the registry because then you can block it. I never used IE for my default. I first used Netscape, then I used Mozilla, then I used FireFox.

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Posted 09 September 2006 - 12:54 AM

Thanx for all the great information and guidance.
Will call it a night and do the Spybot D/L first thing in the morning...with the Teatimer option.
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Posted 09 September 2006 - 12:23 PM

Ah, but Tea-Timer does more than watch for Active-X. It watches for any registry changes. While it may be annoying to have the alerts pop-up when installing programs, it is great to have it when a key-logger, rootkit, or something else tries to change the registry because then you can block it. I never used IE for my default. I first used Netscape, then I used Mozilla, then I used FireFox.

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This is the exact reason that i use it too. It reports any changes that are made within the registry. It then asks if you wish to allow or deny the change, invaluable when a rootkit tries to alter your system registry.

It will pop up nearly everytime you install a new programme and will pop up everytime you delete a programme, so you should allow the registry changes. But if it pops up out of the blue, when no changes have been made by yourself, then you should be wary.

I do not use IE, although Tea-Timer watches for Active-X , it is its registry protector that i use it for.

Edited by graveangel, 09 September 2006 - 12:29 PM.

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Posted 10 September 2006 - 03:42 PM

Actually TeaTimer monitors changes to certain critical (not all) system Registry keys such as System Startup, ActiveX Distribution Unit, Browser page and Browser Helper Object. When any change is detected to these registry keys, Teatimer displays a pop-up alert asking you to allow or deny the change and if you want Spybot to remember the decision.

TeaTimer also monitors processes that are called/initiated in the system. If the process being initiated matches a list of processes in Spypotís detection files a notification alert is issued. This action gives you the choice to allow the process to load or deny (terminate) it and allows you to make a choice as to how to handle the same process during future detections.
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Posted 30 September 2006 - 08:11 PM

Okay...I don't want resort to asking here every time there is a Teatimer pop up window. It was incomplete just like you said jgweed,but I know of a fix if I or anyone else really want to see the entire window.
Got one tonite I don't understand."Change:Value Added,Category;Browser Menu Extension.Resident Show All Original Images,17.10.
Did my weekly scans today,Spybot didn't find anything.Ewido found a few tracking cookies.But didn't change anything to speak of.
Wondering if I should just disable the Teatimer option... don't know enough about registry changes to understand these messages.
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