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Are these necessary for Windows 10?


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#1 blitzjg

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 05:28 PM

I heard Windows 10 is pretty safe and secure, but I know everything can be hacked and has vulnerabilities.

 

I am just getting Windows 10 on my Laptop and am wondering how much of this I need/should install and what you experienced users would recommend?

 

In the past I have used Super Antispyware, Ad-aware, Malwarebytes, and Avira.



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Posted 13 March 2017 - 05:40 PM

Windows 8 and Windows 10 integrates a robust version of Windows Defender for its anti-virus and anti-malware protection. IMO Windows 8/10 Defender is just as good as any other free antivirus solution (and probably easier to use for the novice) without bundled toolbars or nagging popups.Although Windows 8/10 Defender provides some anti-malware protection...it is weak, meaning it does not provide comprehensive protection and cannot prevent, detect and remove all threats at any given time. This is true for most anti-virus solutions. Anti-virus and anti-malware programs each perform different tasks as it relates to computer security and threat detection. Essentially, they look for and remove different types of malicious threats.

In simplistic terms, Anti-virus programs generally scan for infectious malware which includes viruses, worms, Trojans, rootkis and bots.
Anti-malware programs generally tend to focus more on adware, spyware, unwanted toolbars, browser hijackers, potentially unwanted programs and potentially unsafe applications.
Anti-virus and Anti-malware solutions with anti-exploitation features protect against zero-day malware, drive-by downloads, exploits and Exploit Kits.

Therefore, you need both an anti-virus and an effective anti-malware solution for maximum protection.If you choose to use Windows 8/10 Defender (or any other anti-virus), then I recommend adding an additional anti-malware solution. Please read Supplementing your Anti-Virus Program with Anti-Malware Tools for information about trustworthy and effective anti-malware programs which can find and remove adware, spyware, browser hijackers and potentially unwanted programs.
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Posted 13 March 2017 - 05:46 PM

BTW...Windows 10 Anniversary update includes Limited Periodic Scanning to provide additional protection against malware for those using a third party anti-virus program as their primary protection. This feature allows you to run occasional scans with Windows Defender without conflicting with a third-party anti-virus. When enabled, Windows 10 will use the Windows Defender scanning engine to periodically scan your computer (or allow you to schedule scans) for threats and remove them.
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Posted 13 March 2017 - 06:22 PM

Great info.  I was aware of most of this from a very surface level although I knew of Defender I did not know its role.  I would just assume that having a microsoft sponsored and free built-in antiviral software makes the most sense to act as my anti-virus protection especially given its good track record with Win10.  

 

That being said I would obviously supplement per my own amateur experience and your provided information with an anti-malware.  It seems like Malwarebytes has a good reputation still and has served me well in the past so I don't see why I shouldn't just stick with that program.

 

This is the first I have heard of the zero-day and anti-exploit stuff.  So Malwarebytes also offers an anti-exploit program that can be ran in tandem with malwarebytes and defender with no problem?  

 

If I go with Defender as my primary anti-virus program the Limited Periodic Scanning doesn't really add anything correct?



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Posted 13 March 2017 - 06:33 PM

The Limited Periodic Scanning feature to provide additional protection against malware applies to those using a third party anti-virus program as their primary protection in Windows 10 Anniversary Update.Since Malwarebytes 3.0 which combines their previous Anti-Malware, Anti-Exploit, Anti-Ransomware programs along with malicious website protection into one product was released, many users have reported various issues and glitches. While Malwarebytes has diligently attempted to address these problems, the development team is still receiving complaints. For those users who are in that category, I would recommend they stay with or revert back to Malwarebytes 2.x.

Malwarebytes 2.2.1.1043 is still available and can be downloaded from here.
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Posted 13 March 2017 - 06:36 PM

The Limited Periodic Scanning feature to provide additional protection against malware applies to those using a third party anti-virus program as their primary protection in Windows 10 Anniversary Update.

Since Malwarebytes 3.0 which combines their previous Anti-Malware, Anti-Exploit, Anti-Ransomware programs along with malicious website protection into one product was released, many users have reported various issues and glitches. While Malwarebytes has diligently attempted to address these problems, the development team is still receiving complaints. For those users who are in that category, I would recommend they stay with or revert back to Malwarebytes 2.x.

Malwarebytes 2.2.1.1043 is still available and can be downloaded from here.

 

 

Awesome heads up, I assume that means the anti-exploit still needs to be downloaded separately as well?


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 06:40 PM

...Awesome heads up, I assume that means the anti-exploit still needs to be downloaded separately as well?

Yes. That is what I use.
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Posted 13 March 2017 - 06:41 PM

So given the periodic scanning option of defender is it almost more safe to use an third-party as the primary protector so that you have that "second opinion" backup from Defender?



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Posted 13 March 2017 - 06:54 PM

Windows 10 will use the Windows Defender scanning engine to periodically scan your computer for threats only if enabled...otherwise it works like any other anti-virus.

If you want to increase your protection and use a more effective anti-virus, then you enable the feature but that is each user's choice.
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