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#16 mylanta406

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Posted 06 March 2017 - 11:05 AM

@mylanta....obviously you have not perused his forum very much, nor have you studied Windows 10 very much.  Go here, read and learn. Next, go here and get some education.I am actively running Windows XP, Windows 7 Ultimate and W10. You got a lot to learn, my friend. You can start by reading carefully your Windows 10 EULA that you agreed to, and if you do you will see what I am talking about. I work on damaged Windows 10 OSs all the time from bad updates, it is one of the most common complaints in our Windows 10 forum.

Anyway, I have had my say and am on to other topics.

Quite right I have not spent much time here however I am a system builder and do it for a living so sending me to a Windows 10 Forum to read posts is more than insulting, I play with Windows 10 on my own personal pcs (3) everyday and with clients and I have yet to see a Windows update that was an issue. I have read about same one time is all I remember and that was  a major issue. As for security as I said during the install you can eliminate most of the issues the blind tend to complain about and beyond that too much paranoia makes me question what you are hiding? And from who? I mean personally I don't mind doing whatever I can to help Microsoft perfect Windows 10 and it has come a long way. I was a Windows 10 hater like yourself for over a year after release but have seen the light and like it or not it is our OS of the future so we need to learn to live with it.



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Posted 06 March 2017 - 01:21 PM

In my opinion, Windows 10 hasn't caused me any issues so far. As much as I like Windows 7, the support for it ends in 2020 so I'd much rather go with Windows 10 for the time being.



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Posted 06 March 2017 - 03:29 PM

So, before I buy any part, is there anything else I need to buy (e.g. Tools, cabling etc...). Just to add on to this build:

 

[PCPartPicker part list](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8WdW6X) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8WdW6X/by_merchant/)
 
Type|Item|Price
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**CPU** | [Intel Core i5-7400 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/qnM323/intel-core-i5-7400-30ghz-quad-core-processor-bx80677i57400) | £168.59 @ Aria PC 
**CPU Cooler** | [Cooler Master Hyper TX3 Evo 43.1 CFM CPU Cooler](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/vptCmG/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rrtx3e22pkr1) | £19.96 @ Novatech 
**Motherboard** | [Asus PRIME B250M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/pTVBD3/asus-prime-b250m-a-micro-atx-lga1151-motherboard-prime-b250m-a) | £72.00 @ Aria PC 
**Memory** | [Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/JW4NnQ/crucial-memory-ct2k8g4dfs8213) | £83.99 @ Amazon UK 
**Storage** | [Samsung PM961 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/k64NnQ/samsung-pm961-256gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-mzvlw256hehp-00000) | £82.03 @ CCL Computers 
**Storage** | [Toshiba 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/fpCwrH/toshiba-internal-hard-drive-dt01aca200) | £62.99 @ CCL Computers 
**Case** | [Corsair 100R ATX Mid Tower Case](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/JwVBD3/corsair-case-cc9011075ww) | £46.91 @ Amazon UK 
**Power Supply** | [EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/HvTmP6/evga-power-supply-100w10430kr) | £34.79 @ Aria PC 
**Optical Drive** | [Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/6fJwrH/lite-on-optical-drive-ihas12414) | £13.00 @ Amazon UK 
**Operating System** | [Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/96RFf7/microsoft-os-kw900139) | £87.78 @ Aria PC 
**Wireless Network Adapter** | [Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/tTdqqs/gigabyte-wireless-network-card-gcwb867di) | £26.18 @ Amazon UK 
 | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
 | **Total** | **£698.22**
 | Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2017-03-06 20:15 GMT+0000 |


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Posted 06 March 2017 - 03:42 PM

In my opinion, Windows 10 hasn't caused me any issues so far. As much as I like Windows 7, the support for it ends in 2020 so I'd much rather go with Windows 10 for the time being.

In my opinion I would buy EVGA psu but only 550 watts or over. The makers for the lower watts are poor quality and 550 watts and above are made by Super Flower and those are excellent.


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Posted 06 March 2017 - 03:48 PM

What about this one? https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/zNK7YJ/evga-power-supply-100b10500kr



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Posted 06 March 2017 - 04:09 PM

Bad made by HEC is complete junk. 450B3 would be ok or anything 550 watts and up.



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Posted 06 March 2017 - 04:16 PM

Bad made by HEC is complete junk. 450B3 would be ok or anything 550 watts and up.


I don't really see the relation between the wattage and quality of the PSU. The 500B seems to be a well reviewed budget PSU when googled. There aren't any red flags with most of the reviews given by it.

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Posted 06 March 2017 - 10:32 PM

When you look at psus, look at brand name and model. The wattage does have nothing to do with it normally but here there is a 450 made by Super Flower, a stellar maker and all the models over 550 watts are also Super Flower. The others are Hec and Andyson, both of whom make some of the worst psus out there. Want to get away from this buy anything Seasonic, they are considered the best by most people. Here is a well priced example:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151096



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Posted 07 March 2017 - 02:18 AM

For my build, out of the cheapest ones here, which one would you recommend at the lowest price (trying to keep as close to the budget as possible) https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/power-supply/#m=71&sort=a9&page=1



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Posted 07 March 2017 - 10:48 AM

This would do nicely.....I think SeaSonic S12II 620 Bronze 

is best buy but since you haven't used a video card 520 is fine maybe even 450 though if you plan to add a video card later the 620

would be nice to have in.



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Posted 07 March 2017 - 11:41 AM

This would do nicely.....I think SeaSonic S12II 620 Bronze 

is best buy but since you haven't used a video card 520 is fine maybe even 450 though if you plan to add a video card later the 620

would be nice to have in.

 

It's quite a large amount of power for a single CPU rig.



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Posted 07 March 2017 - 01:42 PM

Of the ones currently listed, for low cost, I'd go with this one. http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/2W4NnQ/xfx-power-supply-p1400bxtfr It's made by Seasonic, and while I haven't seen an in depth strip down of that line yet, they don't tend to make bad PSU's.  A 400w psu (of which it can output 360w @ 12v)  has over 100% headroom over what your build actually needs.  Check here if you like - http://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator

 

If you were to add say a GTX1050 at a later date, that's another 75w.  Still well within the capabilities.


Edited by jonuk76, 07 March 2017 - 01:42 PM.

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Posted 07 March 2017 - 02:14 PM

Of the ones currently listed, for low cost, I'd go with this one. http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/2W4NnQ/xfx-power-supply-p1400bxtfr It's made by Seasonic, and while I haven't seen an in depth strip down of that line yet, they don't tend to make bad PSU's.  A 400w psu (of which it can output 360w @ 12v)  has over 100% headroom over what your build actually needs.  Check here if you like - http://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator

 

If you were to add say a GTX1050 at a later date, that's another 75w.  Still well within the capabilities.

 

Excuse my distrust but I can't seem to find any reviews on that PSU. I know that I don't need a high voltage PSU but I just want one that will work well and not blow up the PC.

 

#EDIT: For £80, what's a good option for a SSD? As much as I'd like to use the PM961, it's out of stock. The other retailers sell it for about £100 whilst the one I'm looking at sells it for £80.


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Posted 07 March 2017 - 02:43 PM

Fair enough then. This would be my choice for a extra few £. http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/WmV48d/super-flower-power-supply-sf450p14xehx - Superflower PSU's are excellent in general. Here is an older review - http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=250

 

Shame about the SSD. There's an Intel 600p for similar money but the performance on that looks pretty bad and I'd avoid it.  Other than that, you've the Samsung 960 Evo which is basically similar to a PM961, but more widely available and more expensive, the SM961, or you can go for a cheaper SATA drive.  The PM961 looks good even at £100 if you want the benefit of PCIe transfer rates.  Other than that, cheaper SATA is probably the way to go.


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Posted 07 March 2017 - 03:05 PM

Well, the thread seems to have dragged on a bit. Here's another iteration of parts

 

 
CPU: Intel Core i5-7400 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£171.84 @ CCL Computers) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B250M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£73.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (£83.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung PM961 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (£105.46 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Case: Corsair 100R ATX Mid Tower Case  (£46.91 @ Amazon UK) 
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer  (£13.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit  (£80.00) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  (£25.91 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £713.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Aside from the main parts, are there any other things such as cables to add onto the build?





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