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#1 cornflakes2

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Posted 25 February 2017 - 04:56 AM

I might have desktop pc assembled by seller

and I would like to know if these specs are pretty good for the price.

Here is what I know:

 

i7-7700K

mobo: asus h110 plus

GPU: xenon geforce gtx1070 8gb (super jetstream)

2 TB seagate 7200rpm sata3 HDD

250 gb samsung SSD 850 Evo Series

16 gb ram ddr4 

zalman zm600-LE 600w atx

and a case by ncore abko sapphire 3.0

with windows 7

 

total price about 1600 usd

 

 

any feedback or info about this setup (pros/cons, things to think about or consider), would be much appreciated thanks!

 

Also, will I be able to view, edit/process 4k video with this setup?


Edited by hamluis, 25 February 2017 - 06:19 AM.
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#2 Drillingmachine

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Posted 25 February 2017 - 06:44 AM

Motherboard is quite low end tbh.

 

If you even consider 4K video editing, wait for Ryzen. Launch less than a week.



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Posted 25 February 2017 - 09:30 AM

can you elaborate on the mobo?  Why is it low end? 

I don't really know what is considered to be a high end mobo or mid or low.  Do you mean it's low end because there's not much to upgrade to for future releases?   Should there be more slots or something?


Edited by cornflakes2, 25 February 2017 - 09:31 AM.


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Posted 25 February 2017 - 10:03 AM

how about the Asus H170-Pro mobo.  Would you consider that to be a much better option for my mobo?

 

Also, I haven't heard much about this Zalman ZM600-LE II  PSU (600 W).  Do you think it's better for me to just get the Corsair 600CX 80 plus bronze PSU (600W)?



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Posted 25 February 2017 - 11:03 AM

For 7700K, at least 200 series chipset is recommended, preferably Z270 chipset.

 

Zalman is not very good choice but Corsair is not good either. Any chance to PSU's that you can choose from?

 

Also Ryzen is much better than i7-7700K so I suggest waiting for couple of days.

 

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Posted 25 February 2017 - 04:21 PM

AMD Ryzen r7 1700 8core ($329) are out and available to preorder off amazon. Also get an X370 or B370 Motherboard ($100-200)

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#7 cornflakes2

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Posted 26 February 2017 - 12:05 AM

Thanks again.  Yes many people have told me about the Ryzen 7 and the truth is I just didn't know anything about it until recently.  I'll see if that is an option I can get here.  I have no idea what those motherboards are so forgive me.  I will have to look them up and try to learn why they are better?

 

Can you tell me why at least a 200chipset is recommended for 7700K?   

 

Oh, I'm surprised that Corsair 600CX is not that great either?  I thought it was one of the best ones out there for this price range and someone said having a 80 plus bronze (whatever that means) is highly recommended?



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Posted 26 February 2017 - 04:16 AM

Wait for less than a week and you will have much better idea about Ryzen. But yes, Ryzen is much better than 7700K.

 

200-series support newer technologies. Price difference is very small. But as I said, wait for Ryzen.

 

Corsair made some high quality PSU's and people thought all Corsair are good. Not much later Corsair made also medium quality PSU's but some people still think all Corsair's are good. They are not. 80+ Bronze is minimum but 80+ Gold is much better.



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Posted 26 February 2017 - 05:20 AM

Based on Drilling's post above I an wondering if i can sell my own I5 for $50.00 and replace it with an AMD R5 1600x because I know it will get double the in-game frame rates! Jeez technology moves fast :)



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Posted 26 February 2017 - 05:27 AM

Corsair don't actually make PSU's.  They are made for them by a number of different companies (Channel Well Technology in the case of the CX).  I've read in the past of some issues with coil whine (annoying loud pitched squeeling) with some of the more high output CX's, and some build quality issues too.  However it looks like they've revamped the range and the newest ones seem to be reviewed quite well so far - http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/corsair-cx650m-psu,4770-11.html  And a 5 year warranty is good on a PSU.

 

Worth mentioning is that Windows 7 is *I understand* not fully supported on Kaby Lake or Zen CPU's.  Yes it'll probably work to some extent, but you might have issues, and Microsoft is not going to fix any issues you might have.  Really, unless you have a real hatred of Windows 10 for some reason, that (or Linux etc.) is probably the way to go on a new machine.

 

Source: See last paragraph here - http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/intel-kaby-lake-core-i7-7700k-i7-7700-i5-7600k-i5-7600,review-33752-2.html


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Posted 26 February 2017 - 11:56 PM

Thanks jonuk,

 

I just don't know what windows 10 is.  Is it pretty much the same as windows 7 only with some newer upgrades?  Or is it a completely new layout, completely new user interface and will I have to learn a completely new way of doing things.  I don't know why but I always assumed that windows 10 is more like an android OS or at least the way it looks.

 

Am I incorrect?



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Posted 27 February 2017 - 03:55 AM

Personally I found transition fairly easy (although I do still use Windows 7 too, so switch between them).  It still has the familiar elements (desktop, "Start Menu"), but they are continually upgrading it.  The original Windows 8 went over to an enforced "smartphone like" interface and it was deeply unpopular, and I think not wanting to annoy too many customers they backtracked.  You can disable many of the new "features" like Cortana if you want, and I happily use it in the traditional way with desktop applications without going anywhere near the "app store"!

 

They've also significantly upgraded the underlying operating system and I think it performs better than Windows 7 ever did.

 

The reality is though that Windows 7 is not fully supported on the latest hardware (Kaby Lake and Ryzen) in terms of drivers etc, so you might run into problems with it eventually.

 

EDIT This might be of interest - how to make Windows 10 feel more like Windows 7 - http://www.laptopmag.com/articles/make-windows-10-like-windows-7


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Posted 27 February 2017 - 06:49 AM

I think to sum it all up:

 

Windows 10, regardless of what you've heard, should be bought as opposed to windows 7. Windows 7 won't be supported in future updates past 2020. Windows 7 also doesn't officially support the newer CPU's currently on the market. 

 

If you are looking at video editing then wait for Ryzen as the majority of us have said. Why? The core count. From what we've seen, Ryzen has a significantly higher number of cores than Intel's current i7 lineup. Within a certain point, more cores aid to rendering of videos (Diminishing returns after about 8 cores however). The new Ryzen processors are almost as powerful as the i7's in single core performance but have twice the number of cores and threads. (Intel = 4 Cores/8 Threads // Ryzen = 8 Cores/16 Threads). I think you can see which is better value here.



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Posted 01 March 2017 - 07:30 PM

Based on Drilling's post above I an wondering if i can sell my own I5 for $50.00 and replace it with an AMD R5 1600x because I know it will get double the in-game frame rates! Jeez technology moves fast :)

Some Iranian site has a handful of (translated from Persian/Farsi) early retail Ryzen benchmarks that include games....

 

It appears the 7700K owners won't quite be selling said cpus at a loss quite as fast as anticipated....

 

 https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.shahrsakhtafzar.com%2Ffa%2Freview%2Fcpu%2F11652-amd-ryzen-7-1700x-review%3Fshowall%3D1%26limitstart&edit-text=


Edited by MDD1963, 01 March 2017 - 07:31 PM.

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 12:17 AM

 

Based on Drilling's post above I an wondering if i can sell my own I5 for $50.00 and replace it with an AMD R5 1600x because I know it will get double the in-game frame rates! Jeez technology moves fast :)

Some Iranian site has a handful of (translated from Persian/Farsi) early retail Ryzen benchmarks that include games....

 

It appears the 7700K owners won't quite be selling said cpus at a loss quite as fast as anticipated....

 

 https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.shahrsakhtafzar.com%2Ffa%2Freview%2Fcpu%2F11652-amd-ryzen-7-1700x-review%3Fshowall%3D1%26limitstart&edit-text=

 

 

My post was sarcasm mostly I already know more or less what the performance will be like I have been building since 1998 on a high scale. The Ryzen series are going to basically be equivalent to a much better/higher performing FX 8350 but with 8c/16t (on the R7's), lower TDP than previous Gen 125w TDP. Overall they will be a much better bargain for power users and also enthusiast because the performance gaming wise will be close enough to the I7 6700/7700ks but also be better for video editing and other tasks like streaming -- so AMD will have the better overall value for new builders-gamers but mostly certainly not worth selling an I7 6700/7700k, or even a 4790k, some I5's too if you're mostly a gamer these processors will do just as well as most the AMD processors coming out, but for a new "build-itch" or for someone still using a 1st Gen Intel I7 or possibly 2nd gen Intel this would be a terrific way to go (AMD). Think about it. For any gamer s being told by someone to sell an I7 6700k that probably still get 5% better frames than even a 4.0 GHZ OC'ed R7 1700x would be like selling an I3 6100 for an FX 8350 jus to have the extra cores. Makes no sense at all. I know where it's at trust me :)






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