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#1 jshambaugh

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 08:59 PM

So i've been running my system for awhile and i am getting bsod every once in awhile and i downloaded coretemp and my pc is running really high and i do not know why.

 

Im running a i7 4790k 4.0ghz

I have a side case fan 200mm, a 200mm fan on top, 2 140 mm in the front and a 120 on the back. Graphics card has its own designated 2 fans built in. My cpu cooling is a thermaltake ring 12 silent pro with its 140mm fan aswell. I am not understanding why my cpu is so hot? does it mean that it is faulty?



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#2 britechguy

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 10:14 PM

What is the temperature?

 

The maximum operating case temperature is just a hair above 74 degrees C.  (Specs here).


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 07:03 AM

Previous topic by OP:  https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/638717/bsod-crashes-while-gaming-help/#entry4170968 ,

 

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 01:47 PM

Please download and run CPUID's HWMonitor.  This will list the temperatures for the major components.  Make a screenshot of these and post them in your topic as an attachment.  If you require instructions for attaching the image I've provided instructions below.

 

How to make a screenshot

1. Download and run A Thousand Words .

2. Follow the wizard to capture a screenshot.

3. Use the built-in editor to resize, edit, or re-capture your screen shot.

4. Your screen shot will be saved to your desktop when you finish the wizard.

You can post the screenshot in your next post as an attachment.  

Just below the area where you write text in a post there is the Post button, to the right of this is More Reply Options.

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When you click on More Relpy Options  you will see Attach Files and Browse, click on Browse, this will open Pictures on your computer, click on the image you want to post, then click on Attach This File, then Add Reply.

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 09:51 PM

Just reseat the cooler and see what happens.

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 12:42 PM

Just reseat the cooler and see what happens.

Why don't you wait until you know if there is a heat related problem before making suggestions.  I would also suggest that reseating the CPU fan be one of the last things you would need to suggest.  If this is done the thermal compound would need to be cleansed off and a fresh application applied.  A good portion of the time a simple cleaning will resolve a overheating issue... if one exists.


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 02:06 PM

That CPU has crappy paste under heat spreader so it's designed to run quite hot.

 

Then again, what is your "high temperature"?



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 06:14 PM

Then again, what is your "high temperature"?

 

This question has been asked, but never answered.

 

I cannot count the number of threads I've participated in, both here and elsewhere, where people are wailing and crying about the operating temperatures being "too high" because the software they're using to do the checks has inaccurate information in its database for a given CPU.

 

One should always look at the manufacturer's specifications for the normal operating temperature range plus what the critical temperature is (which is very often specified).  It is not unusual, at all, for a CPU under high load to be operating near or at its maximum normal operating temperature while under load.  CPUs and automobile engines are not all that different in that they always run hotter when under greater load with a given ambient temperature and so long as they don't go over the "overheat limit" they're just fine.

 

If you're running near the top of the normal operating temperature range at rest then something's off, and as often as not it's the result of a collection of crud on the heat dispersal mechanisms and/or thermal paste breakdown.  I have not seen the latter nearly so often as I have seen the former when anything seems to be running a bit warm to hot.


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 06:45 PM

Previous topic by OP:  https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/638717/bsod-crashes-while-gaming-help/#entry4170968 .

 

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 07:15 PM

hamluis,

 

          I saw your post.  However, if someone directly asks a questioner for a data point I don't think it's too much to ask for them to actually supply that information themselves.

 

          I just plowed through that post a bit more carefully and finally found the temperature data reported.   Accounting for error, 70-75 degrees C under load does not qualify as high, as it's the maximum allowed "normal" operating temperature.

 

Some threads that confirm this, and give good data that throttling doe not occur until around 90 degrees C:

 

https://communities.intel.com/docs/DOC-23517 

 

https://communities.intel.com/thread/54422

 

and, finally, http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1800828/intel-temperature-guide.html

 

It is clear that 70 - 74 degrees C, under a heavy load, is not anywhere near to what Intel considers "hot" for this processor.


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     . . . the presumption of innocence, while essential in the legal realm, does not mean the elimination of common sense outside it.  The willing suspension of disbelief has its limits, or should.

    ~ Ruth Marcus,  November 10, 2017, in Washington Post article, Bannon is right: It’s no coincidence The Post broke the Moore story


 

 

 

              

 





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