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I believe that Trump will implode


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#91 r.a.d.

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Posted 16 June 2017 - 02:16 PM

Grinler, in all honesty, the jury is still out. God knows we hope the best for this country, especially with the myriad of threats and technology aimed at us.
I'm not real happy with Trump , (as things stand right now) and blame the parties who provided the prominent choices to us as voters. Perhaps great possibilities are few and far between. Prior to our vote, I did some research on Trump, heck, there is a casino within a few miles from us he used to own. Some who were contracted to do some work sort of got stiffed. Was it inferior work or someone who didn't want to pay their due?
Anyway, call it rose colored glasses, I sincerely hope the inner strength of this country can exceed our elected officials.
That's about all I'll share politically, with an added mention of your site and how it has helped so many computer users over the years.
Hey, if you want to run for President, I just might cast my vote for Abrams. :)

Edited by r.a.d., 16 June 2017 - 02:22 PM.


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#92 Grinler

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Posted 16 June 2017 - 04:12 PM

Hah...thank you for your vote of confidence, but that is the last thing I would want to do :)

Honestly, regardless of my political affiliation, I have become disheartened by both parties. Noone cares about the voters anymore. It is only about pushing their own agenda and the agenda's of those who financed their election.

Sad times we live in.

Hopefully someone will step up who can stand on his own and straddle the middle.

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Posted 16 June 2017 - 06:35 PM

DOJ just warned American people not to believe anonymous officials.



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Posted 16 June 2017 - 06:41 PM

"Someone will step up who can stand on his own and straddle the middle."

 

Visibly I am not a citizen of the USA so perhaps I shouldn't engage in this discussion but the two aspects of the US political situation that stand out most to outsiders are the apparently irreconcilable gap between the Democratic and Republican parties and the power of the various lobbyists. Whoever is the occupant of the White House seems unable to influence these two factors at all.

 

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 06:49 AM

Chris you are spot on.Lifetime politicians are also a huge problem.



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Posted 17 June 2017 - 09:06 AM

"Lifetime politicians are a huge problem."

 

Why?

 

1.  A career in politics is no different than a career in computing, health care, law, etc., etc., etc.

 

2.  We do not expect other professionals to jettison their professions after any set period of time.

 

3.  The skill set necessary to govern and work the levers of government effectively are learned and honed over time.  Who wants an endless stream of "newbies" running nations and making laws?

 

4.  When, in the history of western monarchy or democracy, has the norm not been "lifetime politicians."

 

The problem does not lie with the length of time one chooses to stay, or not stay, in politics.   A lot of the problems now, at least in the United States, do lie with the fact that gerrymandering has made lifetime ideologues who have no interest in actually doing the work of governing remain resident in office.  There are other issues, too, but when you don't have to worry about being voted out, for all practical intents and purposes, that really perverts the process. 


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Posted 17 June 2017 - 09:55 AM

Quick step back in as I alluded to Trump possibly stiffing some contractors at a casino near where we live (#92) . Recollections of my past research wasn't accurate. 
The casino near us is Spotlight 29, and below is an article that describes the problems Trump had with that endeavor:

http://www.desertsun.com/story/news/politics/2016/03/21/donald-trump-spotlight-29/81860676/

This article covers instances where he did not pay due bills, somewhat lengthy, but an interesting read:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/

Having been a contractor for years (small potatoes, small crew, and many a good night's sleep), it's hard to determine if indeed the work performed justified not receiving compensation due. Anyway, apologies for recollections tainted by my age. :)

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 06:18 PM

@britechguy #96

 

Lifetime poiticians in themselves are not a problem, the base they are drawn from can be. I have no detailed knowledge of the backgrounds of any US poiticians but in the UK the preponderance are drawn from either the legal profession or are 'professional' politicians. By that I mean those who have never worked outside the political sphere since they left university. I am not suggesting that these people do not know how to work the levers of government but that they all pull them in the same direction. There are few British poliiticians who would have described themselves as artists, engineers or managers of businesses before they entered politics. The British Labour Party used to be something of an exception to this with its strong background and connection with the Trade Union movement but this link is less strong today than it used to be.

 

As for your final point I can think of two possible exceptions. One is the British government system before the first Reform Act of 1832 (if I remember correctly). The other is more recent, dating from the 18th June 2017 !  The government of President Macron and his LREM party in France. 308 seats out of 577 in the French National Assembly and most of these winning candidates have no, or virtually no, previous experience in government of any sort. Of course how well this will turn out for France remains to be seen.

 

But we are all wandering just a little off the topic of President Trump !

 

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 06:46 PM

Chris,

 

       My only rejoinder is "the norm" doesn't mean "in all cases all of the time."

 

       Even though I was thrilled when Macron defeated Le Pen, it does concern me when the candidate himself and those who serve as his legislative base have no previous experience in government of any sort.  Idealism of all stripes often founders on the shoals of naïveté and inexperience.   Getting a good idea through any political system virtually always requires several "lifetime politicians" in the mix helping to shepherd it past the obstacles, both obvious and hidden.

 

        Here in the United States, I have grown bone tired of those who keep saying, "Government should be run like a business."  No, it should not and could not.  I'm not against the proverbial cutting of the fat and increasing efficiency, which are good anywhere, but when you are dealing with an entity that, at least in theory, must serve all and that has as one of its central purposes balancing conflicting interests through law and regulation you have something that is the antithesis of most private enterprise, which can pick and choose who it serves, where it serves them, and can do anything it likes that is not explicitly in violation of the law.  Private enterprise is free of most of the constraints that "slow down" governments the world over.


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Posted 19 June 2017 - 08:51 PM

@ britechguy

 

Well said.



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Posted 21 June 2017 - 01:40 PM

Judge Grants Man's Request For Trump Name | The Smoking Gun

 

In a clip posted yesterday, Trump referred to himself as “the undeportable one” and “the president’s son.” He also said that he would like to spend some “father-son time” with the 45th president, adding that an invite to the White House for dinner would be nice.

 

I don't think you will confuse him with "the Donald" as this guy shaves his head.

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