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#1 selway

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Posted 06 February 2017 - 05:26 PM

Hi everyone,

 

I am putting together a new build for deep learning research. As I'm no expert on hardware, I'd be grateful for any feedback - thanks!

 

MB: Asus X99-E WS

CPU: Intel i7 5930K

CPU cooler: Noctua NH-D15

Memory: 4 x 16GB DDR2400

Storage: Samsung PM961 512GB M.2 SSD for OS

               3.5" 6TB HDD

GPU: NVIDIA Titan X Pascal

PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 1600W (for future use with additional GPUs)


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Posted 06 February 2017 - 07:37 PM

Big system, someones looking to spend some cash i see, id go raid1 on your setup if you can afford it on the 6TB hdd topic and if you don't plain on overclocking you don't need a K cpu, what kind of software to planing on running on that system, just wondering cus you seem to want 64gigs ram.

As well if were talking pure scientific research id probably get server hardware my self.



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Posted 07 February 2017 - 08:20 AM

Hey shadow_647, thanks a lot for your reply. On the RAM: actually I wouldn't max it out to 64GB at first, I just put that there as I will want to have at least that much capacity for when I add more GPUs to the system. 

 

It is indeed for scientific research, interesting you mention server hardware. I have only really been looking into workstation options, but I would like this to be long-term scalable. Could you point me in the direction of some good resources to find out more, or some suggested specs?



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Posted 07 February 2017 - 08:39 AM

What kind of buget do i have to work with as well what part of the world are you in and ill see what i can come up with for a scientific research workstation system.



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Posted 07 February 2017 - 08:53 AM

Thanks a lot - the budget I set myself is £5000. But as I say, this was with a workstation setup in mind, I didn't look at all at server hardware yet. I could have some leeway on this if it would be worth it in the long run.



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Posted 07 February 2017 - 09:43 AM

What kind of software you trying to run ? just asking cus you went for the big video card in your first post, depending on what kind of numbers were trying to crunch a video card might not even be needed.



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Posted 07 February 2017 - 09:48 AM

The main application will be training neural networks - I work with Tensorflow, running trainings on the GPU. For this, Cuda and CuDNN are also required. The GPU is definitely needed, and in the long run I will expand to more GPUs as I mentioned.


Forgot to mention - I am in the UK.



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Posted 07 February 2017 - 09:59 AM

Also, not sure if it matters too much, but I'll be running Ubuntu on it.



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Posted 07 February 2017 - 10:34 AM

How this work for you, as well i didn't add in cooling, my self i do a costum full water loop for something like that, mobo supports 1TB of ram max

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2630 V4 2.2GHz 10-Core Processor  (£633.90 @ Alza)
CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2630 V4 2.2GHz 10-Core Processor  (£633.90 @ Alza)
Motherboard: Supermicro MBD-X10DRI-O EATX Dual-CPU LGA2011-3 Motherboard  (£389.29 @ More Computers)
Memory: Crucial 32GB (2 x 16GB) Registered DDR4-2133 Memory  (£183.46 @ BT Shop)
Memory: Crucial 32GB (2 x 16GB) Registered DDR4-2133 Memory  (£183.46 @ BT Shop)
Storage: Crucial MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£125.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital Red 6TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£209.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital Red 6TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£209.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital Red 6TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£209.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital Red 6TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£209.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan 6GB Superclocked Signature Video Card  (£899.76 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Rosewill B2 SPIRIT ATX Full Tower Case  (£140.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 P2 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£199.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer  (£56.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £4287.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-07 15:32 GMT+0000

 

That gives you 20 cores with hyper threading 40 cores, as well this is just to give you an idea of what we can do with $5000


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Posted 07 February 2017 - 10:52 AM

As forgot to say if you have deep pockets i would probably make a raid5 file server for backups and a 3rd computer with a dedicated Linux edge firewall disto for network defense like this.

 

http://www.smoothwall.org/

 

Cooling wise id make a custom liquid loop from here.

 

https://www.frozencpu.com/

 

LOLZ hows this work for you case wise ?

 

https://www.frozencpu.com/products/17826/cst-1353/Lian_Li_PC-D8000_Aluminum_HPTX_Full_Tower_Liquid_Cooled_Cube_Case_-_Ultimate_Edition.html?tl=g45#blank

 

http://www.lian-li.com/en/dt_portfolio/pc-d8000/


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Posted 07 February 2017 - 11:46 AM

I know that we've all been spouting this out but AMD is releasing a new high end line of CPU's (AMD Ryzen) that should be out by the end of this month. Just see what they have to offer first I'd say.

 

Also, for the GPU, I'd go with a GTX 1080 as they're cheaper and more powerful than a Titan X. The most powerful card you can currently get is a Titan X Pascal which sell for around £1.2k on Nvidias website. Workstation GPU's are something worth looking at too.



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Posted 07 February 2017 - 11:46 AM

Hey, thanks a lot for putting that together, I've just been checking out the specs of these components. Just a couple of points/questions:  I would prefer to get a board that can take up to 4 GPUs, unless I'm mistaken this one only takes up to 3. Also, I would want to go for the newer Pascal Titan X - it's 12GB and runs a lot faster than the older Maxwell Titan X. I would need a system that can take more RAM than total GPU memory (assuming I have 4 cards), but it doesn't need to be loads more.

 

Then just finally - I've seen that an M.2 SSD performs much faster which is useful for caching data, actually this was my main reason for going for the Asus X99-E WS mobo, but I might be misguided on this point. It looks like the suggested board above doesn't take M.2 SSDs. 



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Posted 07 February 2017 - 11:56 AM

Don't worry about AMD Ryzen actually, it looks like dual socket MB's won't come out for AM4 for a bit. But yes, GTX Titan X Pascal is much newer



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Posted 07 February 2017 - 12:04 PM

Don't worry about AMD Ryzen actually, it looks like dual socket MB's won't come out for AM4 for a bit. But yes, GTX Titan X Pascal is much newer

 

I expect there won't be dual socket AM4 boards ever.

 

But Ryzen will come to servers, CPU codenamed Naples should be 16 core 32 thread part. Compared to dual socket 10 core, even single 16-core Naples sounds much better choice.



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Posted 07 February 2017 - 12:24 PM

Compared to dual socket 10 core, even single 16-core Naples sounds much better choice.

 

Correction 20 cores 40 threads and they each have their own memory bus as well as well as cpu bus, not 100% shore what that server board is i picked but if its like this setup i wouldn't be surprised.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Uniform_Memory_Access

 

 

All you need is 2 pci-e slots for 4 GPU if you get two in one cards.

 

 

£1,299.89

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00ZZDNGIK/?tag=pcp0f-21
 

 

I've seen that an M.2 SSD performs much faster which is useful for caching data

 

SSD are 10x slower at writing then read given time just so you know making em not much better then old stile drives on this topic as well you can get a add on pci-e SSD cards if you want pure speed on this topic or just start going SSD in raid0

 

You do know as well two video cards are not 2x the speed, if you get +30% if your lucky and the more cards you add the less you get per card, 3 or 4 video cards is a wast of space and cash and by the time you get their down the road were your thinking of adding in more of the same theirs a faster single card out their that kills the pile in any case, twin video cards i can see for people that have cash to burn if you don't mind the down sides of having more then one card, more then that makes no scene.

 

All most starting to sound like your trying to cryptocurrency \ bitcoin mine or something.






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