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#1 devilus

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Posted 25 January 2017 - 09:42 AM

I just want to install the latest release of Firefox (51.0). However I read following words on the release notes page:

 

"To install Firefox on a Windows XP system, because of Windows restrictions, the user will have to download Firefox 43.0.1 and then update to the current release."

 

Running 50.0.2. Couldn't I install it right over top of the existing version? Is this warning valid for the first time installation only?

 

(EDIT: Sorry, it's in the system requirements section, not on the release notes page.)


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Posted 25 January 2017 - 10:05 AM

I would presume this is in regard to installing Firefox "fresh" on an XP system.  I can't imagine yours wouldn't update via the normal Firefox update process at this point.

 

Regardless of the browser, there are some serious potential risks with interacting with cyberspace with WinXP.   It's been security Swiss cheese for a very long time now.


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Posted 25 January 2017 - 10:18 AM

I would presume this is in regard to installing Firefox "fresh" on an XP system.  I can't imagine yours wouldn't update via the normal Firefox update process at this point.

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It says "there is no update" when checking. Don't know why.


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Posted 25 January 2017 - 10:38 AM

Since Mozilla is moving all XP users to their ESR in March, I would backup your bookmarks and uninstall Firefox then install the latest ESR 45. After installing ESR 45 you will need to go through a few updates to get to the latest version. I had to do this because my CPU does not have the SSE2 extension and could not update firefox past 48.

 

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/

 

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/



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Posted 25 January 2017 - 10:52 AM

Since Mozilla is moving all XP users to their ESR in March, I would backup your bookmarks and uninstall Firefox then install the latest ESR 45. After installing ESR 45 you will need to go through a few updates to get to the latest version. I had to do this because my CPU does not have the SSE2 extension and could not update firefox past 48.

 

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/

 

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/

 

I think I'll stick with my version 50.0.2 for a while. I don't want to start all over again. Maybe another time. Thanks.


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Posted 25 January 2017 - 10:54 AM

If you are at 50.0.2 note that Mozilla will automatically move you to the ESR in March. I don't think this will affect your bookmarks and extensions.



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Posted 25 January 2017 - 11:06 AM

If you are at 50.0.2 note that Mozilla will automatically move you to the ESR in March. I don't think this will affect your bookmarks and extensions.

I didn't understand, how. Checking for updates reports nothing. You mean when installing 51.0?


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Posted 25 January 2017 - 11:09 AM

I am not sure how Mozilla will achieve the update but from the link I provided.

 

 
Firefox users on XP & Vista will be moved to Firefox ESR

Currently, the exact plan is to move all XP and Vista users to Firefox ESR (Extended Support Release) in March 2017.

Firefox ESRs are Firefox versions (v10, v17, v24, v31, v38, and v45) for which Mozilla provides security updates for extended amounts of time. Currently, the only two supported ESR versions are Firefox ESR 38 and ESR 45.

By forcing all Windows XP and Vista users to one of these two ESR versions, Mozilla staff can focus on delivering security updates to only two Firefox versions, instead of 20 or 30.

This way Mozilla can cut down operational costs for an OS market share that will shrink more and more in the coming years.

Mozilla said it plans to provide security updates for these two Firefox ESR versions until September 2017, when, following its assessment of the XP and Vista market share, will decide if to continue catering for these two userbases, or announce end of support.

 



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Posted 25 January 2017 - 11:24 AM

Well. I have to wait until March 2017 and see what happens. :rolleyes:


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Posted 25 January 2017 - 01:01 PM

After backing up my Profile folder etc, I was able to update Firefox 50.0.2 to 51.0 using the setup file. No problem at all. :thumbup2:


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Posted 25 January 2017 - 01:13 PM

The latest version of Firefox (at least not preview) is 50.1.0, and that's what I presume you meant.

 

Your issue will come not now, but once Firefox stops pushing out patches for the non-ESR versions, the latest of which is version 45, for Windows XP and Vista.  These days things become security Swiss cheese at very high speed, and a newer version of Firefox that isn't receiving ongoing security patches that runs under XP or Vista (read, at the moment, anything beyond version 45) is not something you want to keep using.


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Posted 25 January 2017 - 01:30 PM

The latest version of Firefox (at least not preview) is 50.1.0, and that's what I presume you meant.

 

Your issue will come not now, but once Firefox stops pushing out patches for the non-ESR versions, the latest of which is version 45, for Windows XP and Vista.  These days things become security Swiss cheese at very high speed, and a newer version of Firefox that isn't receiving ongoing security patches that runs under XP or Vista (read, at the moment, anything beyond version 45) is not something you want to keep using.

I think it's not preview:

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/software/firefox-51-released-with-support-for-flac-webgl-2-and-improved-security/

 

Downloaded from:

https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/

 

Otherwise you're right. But my current problem was if I could install v.51.0 over my exisiting version on XP or not. Thanks anyway.


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Posted 25 January 2017 - 03:45 PM

I have version 50.1 on my XP install.  It is the latest version per the Mozilla update mechanism.

 

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Posted 25 January 2017 - 07:18 PM

I have version 50.1 on my XP install.  It is the latest version per the Mozilla update mechanism.

 

Louis

 

Same here.  If it's not being updated via the built-in update mechanism then, from my perspective, it's preview.  Either that or they push out the updates over the course of a few days or weeks and my machines are not a part of the "current update group" yet.


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Posted 26 January 2017 - 02:47 AM

I have version 50.1 on my XP install.  It is the latest version per the Mozilla update mechanism.

 

Louis

This update mechanism seems not working for me, neither on XP nor on Vista. Both stucked with 50.0.2 before I installed 51.0 on XP manually.


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