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Microsoft and Scare Tactics


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#1 sikntired

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 12:34 PM

Well here we go again. Microsoft appears to be using scare tactics to get Win 7 users to upgrade. Found this Forbes article to be quite interesting.

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2017/01/17/microsoft-windows-7-security-hardware-support-problems/?utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=partner&utm_campaign=yahootix&partner=yahootix&yptr=yahoo&ref=yfp#76d056757836



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#2 Gorbulan

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 12:37 PM

Microsoft says that sticking with Windows 7 will result in "higher operating costs" for users due to problems with reliability and compatibility

 

 

Hah! Good one, Microsoft.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 12:48 PM

I would not have expected anything less...no surprise here.  The only way that MS can ever pump the latest "new improved" version of Windows since XP...is this sort of rhetoric.  Too many users of XP and Win 7 are still reflected.

 

Even though XP has been abandoned officially...it still has approximately 10% of market share, while W10 is 25%.  Win 7 has almost 50% of user market.

 

https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0

 

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 01:24 PM

Pure FUD. 90% of security problems goes back to the person pressing the keys. In other words don't go clicking a link in an email from Uncle Joe if all you see is Hello. This is exactly what happened with Podesta's email account. Windows 10 or 7, It wouldn't of made a difference.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 02:19 PM

It's kind of a shocking statement too.

 

2017:

"Our older product, Windows 7, is insecure."

 

"Here, use this new product, Windows 10."

 

2009:

"Our older product, Windows XP, is insecure."

 

"Here, use this new product, Windows 7."



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 02:25 PM

Maybe should be:

 

"Windows is insecure"

 

"Here, use linux  .... pick your own distro"



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 04:24 PM

Well...MS directs these sorts of statements...to the unknowledgeable new users who have read some of the information on the latest brainchild.  To this group, the MS pronouncement is taken at face value...because the buyers/users of new systems don't know any better and don't have any choice in the matter since new systems come with W10 preloaded.

 

To offset all the complaints about W10 and the fact that many users have reverted to installing Win 7 on their systems...you get pronouncements like this.  IMO, such are not made to influence that 75% of users who haven't turned to Win 10...but to influence all those potential new users who just don't have any experience at all with those O/Ses which make up the 75% of non-W10 market share.

 

MS has to do something like this because they (obviously) see a trend where new users are turning away from their latest child...and the best way of deferring more of the same...is to emphasize how "insecure" the chief competition is compared to today's "shiny new car."

 

It's laughable only if you are smart enough to examine it.  All advertising counts on the stupidity and tendency not to examine what's really being said...or examine the possible reasons for such hyperbole is being directed at them.

 

Same thing that automakers do year after year...

 

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Edited by hamluis, 18 January 2017 - 05:30 PM.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 05:17 PM

Not that I don't disagree that Microsoft and many others don't engage in hyperbole because they do.

 

A lot of what's been said about security generally on this thread is absolute hyperbole, so there is a "pot - kettle - black" element to it all.

 

I'm the first person to say that the computer's operator is the first and best security defense.  That being said, I'd pull out my own fingernails before using Windows XP to do anything sensitive in even the slightest way with the internet these days.  There's plenty of information out there about the security Swiss cheese that Window XP has become as it continues to remain unpatched.  Believing that the nefarious somehow won't target your WinXP box, or that you can outsmart those who devoutly wish to do so, is wishful thinking of the worst kind.  Eventually the same becomes true of any version of any OS that stops receiving security patches as new vulnerabilities are identified, particularly if they're very popular and there exists a "target rich" environment.  Now that Linux is becoming as popular as it has become it's also become a far more tempting target than it once was.  I'm old enough to remember when Unix in general was a computing environment that most of the security world ignored because most of the virus/malware world was doing the same.  That's stopped being true.


Edited by britechguy, 18 January 2017 - 05:18 PM.

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