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BSOD - ATTEMPTED_SWITCH_FROM_DPC/afd.sys - MSI GT62VR 6RE Dominator Pro Laptop


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#1 Rickin

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Posted 16 January 2017 - 12:04 AM

Hi,

 
I currently have a new 2 week old 'MSI GT62VR GRE Dominator Pro' laptop .  It was running fine for 2 weeks before it started to BSOD like crazy where it is pretty much unstable.  I have even done a fresh install of Windows 10, but it is still BSOD.  Any assistance would be much appreciated :)
 
· OS - Windows 10
· x64
· What was original installed OS on system? Windows 10 (Pre-installed)
· Is the OS an OEM version (came pre-installed on system) or full retail version (YOU purchased it  from retailer)? OEM
· Age of system (hardware)? 2 weeks old
· Age of OS installation - have you re-installed the OS? 1 day old
· CPU: Intel i7-6700HQ CPU @2.60GHz
· Video Card: Nvidia GTX 1070 / 8GB VRAM / 256-bit
· MotherBoard - (if NOT a laptop): Laptop
· Power Supply - brand & wattage (skip if laptop): Laptop
· System Manufacturer: MSI
· Exact model number (if laptop, check label on bottom): MSI GT62VR Dominator Pro-087 15.6" Gaming Laptop Computer - Aluminum Black; Intel Core i7-6700HQ Processor 2.6GHz; NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB GDDR5 VR Ready; 16GB RAM; 1TB HDD + 256GB M.2 SSD
· Laptop or Desktop? Laptop
 
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Posted 17 January 2017 - 02:25 AM

Attached are more dump files after Driver Verifier had been enabled for more than 24hrs...

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Posted 17 January 2017 - 09:27 AM

Your UEFI/BIOS (version E16L2IMS.111) dates from 2016.  Please check at the manufacturer's website to see if there are any UEFI/BIOS updates available for your system.  This is just in case there has been a more recent update.
FYI - W8 and W10 communicate more with the UEFI/BIOS than previous versions of Windows, so it's important to ensure that the UEFI/BIOS is kept up to date (and that outdated UEFI/BIOS' may be the cause of some compatibility issues).

Only 3 Windows Update hotfixes installed.  Most build 14393 (1607) systems have more than this.  Please visit Windows Update and get ALL available Windows Updates.
The actual number is not important.  Rather it's important that you checked manually, installed any available updates, and didn't experience any errors when checking or updating.

The Driver Verifier enabled memory dumps point to multiple components.
Along with that are several errors that we typically associate with hardware problems.

I would suggest running these free hardware diagnostics:  http://www.carrona.org/hwdiag.html

Please run ALL of the tests and let us know the results.

 

Please uninstall the MSI Dragoon Gaming Center and SuperAntispyware as their drivers date from well before W10 was released.

 

Analysis:
The following is for information purposes only. The following information contains the relevant information from the blue screen analysis:
**************************Tue Jan 17 02:07:26.116 2017 (UTC - 5:00)**************************
Loading Dump File [C:\Users\john\SysnativeBSODApps\011717-6921-01.dmp]
Windows 10 Kernel Version 14393 MP (8 procs) Free x64
Built by: 14393.693.amd64fre.rs1_release.161220-1747
System Uptime:0 days 0:42:13.919
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for afd.sys
Probably caused by :afd.sys ( afd+518d6 )
BugCheck 100000B8, {ffffd58029788cc0, ffffae045f3a3080, 0, 0}
BugCheck Info: ATTEMPTED_SWITCH_FROM_DPC (b8)
Arguments:
Arg1: ffffd58029788cc0, Original thread which is the cause of the failure
Arg2: ffffae045f3a3080, New thread
Arg3: 0000000000000000, Stack address of the original thread
Arg4: 0000000000000000
BUGCHECK_STR:  0xB8
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: VERIFIER_ENABLED_VISTA_MINIDUMP
PROCESS_NAME:  System
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: 0xB8_VRF_afd!unknown_function
CPUID:        "Intel® Core™ i7-6700HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz"
MaxSpeed:     2600
CurrentSpeed: 2592
  BIOS Version                  E16L2IMS.111
  BIOS Release Date             12/01/2016
  Manufacturer                  Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.
  Product Name                  GT62VR 6RE
  Baseboard Product             MS-16L2
¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨``
**************************Mon Jan 16 23:31:22.451 2017 (UTC - 5:00)**************************
Loading Dump File [C:\Users\john\SysnativeBSODApps\011617-7093-01.dmp]
Windows 10 Kernel Version 14393 MP (8 procs) Free x64
Built by: 14393.693.amd64fre.rs1_release.161220-1747
System Uptime:0 days 0:00:28.251
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for nvlddmkm.sys
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for nvlddmkm.sys
Probably caused by :nvlddmkm.sys ( nvlddmkm+151a0c )
BugCheck C4, {32, 0, fffff8010da1a1d8, 0}
BugCheck Info: DRIVER_VERIFIER_DETECTED_VIOLATION (c4)
DRIVER_VERIFIER_DETECTED_VIOLATION (c4)
Arguments:
Arg1: 0000000000000032, releasing a spinlock when not at DISPATCH_LEVEL.
Arg2: 0000000000000000, current IRQL,
Arg3: fffff8010da1a1d8, spinlock address
Arg4: 0000000000000000
BUGCHECK_STR:  0xc4_32
PROCESS_NAME:  nvcontainer.exe
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: 0xc4_32_VRF_nvlddmkm!unknown_function
CPUID:        "Intel® Core™ i7-6700HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz"
MaxSpeed:     2600
CurrentSpeed: 2592
  BIOS Version                  E16L2IMS.111
  BIOS Release Date             12/01/2016
  Manufacturer                  Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.
  Product Name                  GT62VR 6RE
  Baseboard Product             MS-16L2
¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨``
**************************Mon Jan 16 15:47:00.702 2017 (UTC - 5:00)**************************
Loading Dump File [C:\Users\john\SysnativeBSODApps\011617-8046-01.dmp]
Windows 10 Kernel Version 14393 MP (8 procs) Free x64
Built by: 14393.693.amd64fre.rs1_release.161220-1747
System Uptime:0 days 1:02:44.504
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for win32k.sys
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for win32k.sys
Probably caused by :memory_corruption
BugCheck C8, {1, 0, 0, 0}
BugCheck Info: IRQL_UNEXPECTED_VALUE (c8)
Arguments:
Arg1: 0000000000000001, (Current IRQL << 16) | (Expected IRQL << 8) | UniqueValue
Arg2: 0000000000000000
Arg3: 0000000000000000
Arg4: 0000000000000000
BUGCHECK_STR:  0xC8
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  CODE_CORRUPTION
PROCESS_NAME:  MemCompression
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: MEMORY_CORRUPTION_LARGE
CPUID:        "Intel® Core™ i7-6700HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz"
MaxSpeed:     2600
CurrentSpeed: 2592
  BIOS Version                  E16L2IMS.111
  BIOS Release Date             12/01/2016
  Manufacturer                  Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.
  Product Name                  GT62VR 6RE
  Baseboard Product             MS-16L2
¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨``
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The following is for information purposes only. My recommendations were given above. The drivers that follow belong to software or devices that were not developed by Microsoft.  You can find links to the driver information and where to update the drivers in the section after the code box:

**************************Tue Jan 17 02:07:26.116 2017 (UTC - 5:00)**************************
winio64.sys                 Fri Jun  4 00:08:03 2010 (4C087C23)
SASKUTIL64.SYS              Tue Jul 12 17:00:01 2011 (4E1CB5D1)
SASDIFSV64.SYS              Thu Jul 21 19:03:00 2011 (4E28B024)
iocbios2.sys                Thu May 28 16:42:10 2015 (55677DA2)
iaStorA.sys                 Tue Sep 15 03:35:15 2015 (55F7CA33)
ICCWDT.sys                  Sun Sep 20 03:59:19 2015 (55FE6757)
WtfEngineDrv.sys            Mon Sep 21 10:31:10 2015 (560014AE)
ssdevfactory.sys            Thu Sep 24 21:12:39 2015 (56049F87)
TeeDriverW8x64.sys          Wed Feb  3 17:41:13 2016 (56B28209)
NTIOLib_X64.sys             Tue Apr 12 03:04:16 2016 (570C9DF0)
ssps2.sys                   Thu May 26 21:59:49 2016 (5747AA15)
Smb_driver_Intel.sys        Tue Jun  7 22:49:38 2016 (575787C2)
intelppm.sys                Fri Jul 15 22:10:43 2016 (578997A3)
xusb22.sys                  Fri Jul 15 22:28:13 2016 (57899BBD)
RtsPer.sys                  Thu Aug  4 05:11:14 2016 (57A306B2)
Qcamain10x64.sys            Wed Aug 31 01:09:26 2016 (57C66686)
e2xw10x64.sys               Wed Sep 14 16:52:26 2016 (57D9B88A)
RTKVHD64.sys                Thu Sep 29 07:09:10 2016 (57ECF656)
nvhda64v.sys                Thu Sep 29 09:25:06 2016 (57ED1632)
MBAMSwissArmy.sys           Wed Nov  9 09:21:05 2016 (582330D1)
SynTP.sys                   Mon Nov 28 18:35:45 2016 (583CBF51)
nvpciflt.sys                Sun Dec 11 13:07:29 2016 (584D95E1)
nvlddmkm.sys                Sun Dec 11 13:13:24 2016 (584D9744)
nvvhci.sys                  Thu Dec 15 04:29:03 2016 (5852625F)
nvvad64v.sys                Mon Dec 19 00:50:05 2016 (5857750D)
sshid.sys                   Mon Dec 19 12:43:41 2016 (58581C4D)
¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨``
**************************Mon Jan 16 23:31:22.451 2017 (UTC - 5:00)**************************
btfilter.sys                Fri Jan 15 03:41:03 2016 (5698B09F)
asmtxhci.sys                Mon Aug 29 04:40:00 2016 (57C3F4E0)
asmthub3.sys                Mon Aug 29 04:40:08 2016 (57C3F4E8)
¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨``
**************************Mon Jan 16 15:47:00.702 2017 (UTC - 5:00)**************************
SYMEFASI64.SYS              Wed Aug  3 01:50:18 2016 (57A1861A)
SRTSPX64.SYS                Fri Sep  2 21:56:42 2016 (57CA2DDA)
SYMEVENT64x86.SYS           Thu Sep  8 15:47:29 2016 (57D1C051)
SRTSP64.SYS                 Tue Sep 13 21:14:58 2016 (57D8A492)
eeCtrl64.sys                Fri Sep 16 22:16:39 2016 (57DCA787)
EraserUtilRebootDrv.sys     Fri Sep 16 22:16:39 2016 (57DCA787)
IDSvia64.sys                Fri Dec  2 12:58:53 2016 (5841B65D)
¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨``
**************************Mon Jan 16 09:17:28.810 2017 (UTC - 5:00)**************************
ccSetx64.sys                Mon Aug 18 15:33:11 2014 (53F254F7)
nvvad64v.sys                Tue Apr 12 04:46:52 2016 (570CB5FC)
nvhda64v.sys                Tue May 10 04:59:01 2016 (5731A2D5)
NvStreamKms.sys             Fri Jun  3 07:28:21 2016 (575169D5)
nvpciflt.sys                Sat Oct  1 15:01:59 2016 (57F00827)
nvlddmkm.sys                Sat Oct  1 15:08:52 2016 (57F009C4)
¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨``
**************************Sun Jan 15 23:13:19.472 2017 (UTC - 5:00)**************************
intelide.sys                Fri Jul 15 22:29:13 2016 (57899BF9)
MegaSas2i.sys               Fri Jul 22 17:36:46 2016 (579291EE)
¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨``
**************************Sun Jan 15 21:06:18.641 2017 (UTC - 5:00)**************************
ccSetx64.sys                Thu May  5 18:33:33 2016 (572BCA3D)
TeeDriverW8x64.sys          Wed Jul 13 12:52:17 2016 (578671C1)
btfilter.sys                Wed Aug 31 01:04:48 2016 (57C66570)
Ironx64.SYS                 Fri Sep  2 17:44:25 2016 (57C9F2B9)
iaStorA.sys                 Tue Sep 13 10:45:46 2016 (57D8111A)
SYMNETS.SYS                 Wed Sep 14 22:43:10 2016 (57DA0ABE)
BHDrvx64.sys                Fri Nov  4 05:39:20 2016 (581C5748)
¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨``
**************************Sun Jan 15 18:18:02.282 2017 (UTC - 5:00)**************************
SYMEVENT64x86.SYS           Mon May 23 16:42:54 2016 (57436B4E)
RfeCo10X64.sys              Tue Sep 27 00:10:15 2016 (57E9F127)
¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨``
**************************Sun Jan 15 18:16:44.094 2017 (UTC - 5:00)**************************
SYMNETS.SYS                 Tue Apr 12 19:47:43 2016 (570D891F)
Ironx64.SYS                 Wed May  4 08:56:49 2016 (5729F191)
SYMEFASI64.SYS              Thu May 12 15:21:02 2016 (5734D79E)
SRTSP64.SYS                 Wed May 25 23:16:06 2016 (57466A76)
SRTSPX64.SYS                Wed May 25 23:18:13 2016 (57466AF5)
EraserUtilDrv11611.sys      Fri Sep 16 22:16:39 2016 (57DCA787)


http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=winio64.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=SASKUTIL64.SYS
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=SASDIFSV64.SYS
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=iocbios2.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=iaStorA.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=ICCWDT.sys
WtfEngineDrv.sys - this driver hasn't been added to the DRT as of this run. Please search Google/Bing for the driver if additional information is needed.
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=ssdevfactory.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=TeeDriverW8x64.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=NTIOLib_X64.sys
ssps2.sys - this driver hasn't been added to the DRT as of this run. Please search Google/Bing for the driver if additional information is needed.
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=Smb_driver_Intel.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=intelppm.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=xusb22.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=RtsPer.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=Qcamain10x64.sys
e2xw10x64.sys - this driver hasn't been added to the DRT as of this run. Please search Google/Bing for the driver if additional information is needed.
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=RTKVHD64.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=nvhda64v.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=MBAMSwissArmy.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=SynTP.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=nvpciflt.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=nvlddmkm.sys
nvvhci.sys - this driver hasn't been added to the DRT as of this run. Please search Google/Bing for the driver if additional information is needed.
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=nvvad64v.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=sshid.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=btfilter.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=asmtxhci.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=asmthub3.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=SYMEFASI64.SYS
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=SRTSPX64.SYS
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=SYMEVENT64x86.SYS
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=SRTSP64.SYS
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=eeCtrl64.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=EraserUtilRebootDrv.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=IDSvia64.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=ccSetx64.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=nvvad64v.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=nvhda64v.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=NvStreamKms.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=nvpciflt.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=nvlddmkm.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=intelide.sys
MegaSas2i.sys - this driver hasn't been added to the DRT as of this run. Please search Google/Bing for the driver if additional information is needed.
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=ccSetx64.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=TeeDriverW8x64.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=btfilter.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=Ironx64.SYS
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=iaStorA.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=SYMNETS.SYS
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=BHDrvx64.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=SYMEVENT64x86.SYS
RfeCo10X64.sys - this driver hasn't been added to the DRT as of this run. Please search Google/Bing for the driver if additional information is needed.
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=SYMNETS.SYS
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=Ironx64.SYS
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=SYMEFASI64.SYS
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=SRTSP64.SYS
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=SRTSPX64.SYS
EraserUtilDrv11611.sys - this driver hasn't been added to the DRT as of this run. Please search Google/Bing for the driver if additional information is needed.
 
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Posted 22 January 2017 - 12:49 PM

Thank you usasma for your detailed analysis.  This was a battle lol.  My BSODs were far more worse than ever after posting this thread.  It started to crash like every few mins where it was pretty much unstable.  I ended up bricking my system after trying to restore the OEM Windows 10 (pre-installed) from the MSI Factory Image on the SSD.  It failed which ended up wiping out my OS and left my laptop in a never ending boot loop.  I ended up burning a Windows 10 ISO onto a bootable usb flashdrive.   No repair would work and I even tried rebuilding MBR from CMD line, but no go.  Could not get to safemode.  I ended up deleting and rebuilding the partition and reformatted the SSD and re-installed with a clean Windows 10 OS Install which automatically activated my OS when it connected to internet.  My lapop had not crashed since and it has been about 5 days now.  I could not find any errors with memtest, prime95, chkdsk/sfc, temps are good.  As of now, I believe my laptop is fixed.  Please close this thread, thanks!



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Posted 23 January 2017 - 05:27 PM

Very interesting!  Unfortunately, there isn't a clear line between hardware and software problems - and this is a perfect example of this.

That's for posting back, as it'll help others who come looking for help with a similar problem.


My browser caused a flood of traffic, sio my IP address was banned. Hope to fix it soon. Will get back to posting as soon as Im able.

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