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#1 xtype

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 06:41 AM

Hi all

 

I'm updating all my systems on W7 Pro. I'm in Group B and haven't installed sense Oct 2016.

 

What I want to do is install October, November and December security updates only.

 

Am I on the right track here  - 

 

Install:

 

(1) October - kb3192391

(2) November - KB3197867

(3) December - KB3205394

 

THX......


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#2 MoxieMomma

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 07:01 AM

Hi:

 

For those who aren't familiar with "Group B:"

 

Microsoft fixes Windows 7 'Group B' security-only patching method

 

Security Only and Security Monthly Quality Rollup Updates

 

You'll need to download the updates from the MS Update Catalog, selecting the correct version for your architecture (32-bit or 64-bit):

 

3192391

 

3197867

 

3205394

 

In my experience, WU will continue to offer the "Group A" (Security+ Quality) Rollups after the Group B patches are installed. So you might need to hide them.

 

HTH,

 

MM

 

 

 



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Posted 04 January 2017 - 08:00 AM

Sure just one problem when I try to install the first October update it hangs on "Searching for updates for this computer"

 

Any ideas?

 

Just to note I did install the hanging fix some time ago as I was selecting and push installing updates with a pulseway server originally.

 

Regards,


Edited by xtype, 04 January 2017 - 08:04 AM.


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Posted 04 January 2017 - 08:26 AM

Hi:

 

EDIT: No idea about the "pulseway server" or other non-standard methods.  Sorry.

 

Before installing the Rollups, you'll need to fix the WU client.

 

I suggest following the instructions here, exactly as written:

 

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/636165/problems-downloading-windows-updates-kb3020369-and-kb3172605/#entry4151368

 

(Also, see MS's own official KB article on this, even though their bare bones instructions do not always work without the added steps to temporarily kill the WU service.  And this post lists some links to other topics here and at other forums, for more cases where this procedure worked to fix the issue.)

 

The general idea is to get WU out of the perpetual "checking for updates" mess, so that you can manually install the offline installers for KB3020369 and KB3172605.

That will fix the WU client.

Then you will be able to check for updates normally and install the patches you want, including the "Group B" updates.

 

If this does not work or you get some sort of specific error code, then you probably have a different issue.

 

Please post back and let us know how it goes, so that we can all learn,

 

MM


Edited by MoxieMomma, 04 January 2017 - 08:27 AM.


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Posted 04 January 2017 - 08:55 AM

I suggest stopping the Windows Update service (in Services) before trying to install the monthly rollups.  Otherwise the WU service will gum up your efforts...as you seem to have discovered :).

 

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 09:03 AM

^^ I agree. ^^

 

From my own experience (as just a home user), the process might error out for some users when they try to *disable* the WU service.

It has worked more reliably for me (twice) and for other users to change the service to *manual* and to stop it.

That's why I specified what I did in step #3 here.

(One also needs to set the WU applet to "never check for updates".)

 

In any event, the steps I've outlined seem to work on an otherwise stable, uninfected system.

But each computer is unique.

And others -- especially those with more expertise -- may find that a different method works as well or better.

 

Cheers,

MM



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Posted 04 January 2017 - 11:35 AM

Hi, again:

 

Sorry for spamming the thread.

I just realized that the link I provided in my original reply directs to a post where I included links to the MS KB articles, rather than to the MS Update Catalog hosting the actual installers.

 

THIS POST from a similar, recent topic outlines essentially the same steps, but uses direct links to download the relevant offline installers for KB3020369 and KB3172605.

>>Be sure to select the version that corresponds to your OS (which should be Win7 SP1) and to your architecture (either 32-bit or 64-bit).

 

Unless this is fresh install of Win7, you can skip KB3125574.

The other two are the most important.

 

I apologize for any confusion.

 

Cheers,

MM



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Posted 05 January 2017 - 07:49 AM

No problem MM.

 

Ok Guys I still ran into manual update problems even though the system is clean (Endpoint Installed)
so, in this case I used the PW update server and 27 Updates were Found. I installed
the 11 below updates.
 
Note Update for Windows 7 (KB3172605) showed up in the "Optional" section so I installed
that as well fixing WU.
 
I push installed the following. 
 
 
CRITICAL
 
 
Security Update for Microsoft Office 2010 (KB2889841) 32-Bit Edition
 
December, 2016 Security Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows 7 (KB3207752)
 
December, 2016 Security and Quality Rollup for .NET Framework 3.5.1, 4.5.2, 4.6, 4.6.1, 4.6.2 on Windows 7 (KB3205402)
 
 
IMPORTANT
 
Security Update for SQL Server 2014 Service Pack 2 GDR (KB3194714)
 
Security Update for Microsoft Office 2010 (KB3115120) 32-Bit Edition
 
Security Update for Microsoft PowerPoint 2010 (KB3118378) 32-Bit Edition
 
Security Update for Microsoft Office 2010 (KB3118380) 32-Bit Edition
 
Security Update for Microsoft Excel 2010 (KB3128037) 32-Bit Edition
 
Security Update for Microsoft Publisher 2010 (KB3114395) 32-Bit Edition
 
Security Update for Microsoft Word 2010 (KB3128034) 32-Bit Edition
 
 
Optional
 
Windows 7 (KB3172605)
 
I can report all is well with this system ....... :thumbup2:


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Posted 05 January 2017 - 10:43 AM

:thumbup2:, nice work.

 

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 07:05 PM

Yes, great job, @xtype.

Thanks for taking the time to report your results.

I'm glad you were able to resolve your issue.

 

Cheers,

MM






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