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#1 MadmanRB

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Posted 01 January 2017 - 12:12 PM

A new year is coming and I am getting my final tax return from my old job and I am going to use some of that money to build a new computer.

I may even film my build and pop it on youtube but that is another story as I am thinking of just trying to get a gaming channel running on youtube to make ends meat because the job market is so horrible.

Now money is not going to run out for me yet, and i have plans in place for when the time comes but in any case I am going to build another computer this year.

So the first part I am going to get is the graphics card, I am really considering this:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487267

 

It is first going into my current build then when I can get the rest of my build together it will go into that machine.

Neweggs prices can be bad though so I have a similar card lined up just in case.

 

Secondly is the processor.

Now Zen is on the horizon and so far I hear the lowest cost is $150-160 which I can deal with.

Because I need a placeholder for my cost calculations here is the nearest intel for that price point:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117622

 

And the closest intel motherboard that I am willing to afford:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128872

 

I really have to cheap out here so no overclocking malarky and am unsure if AMD will be offering good overclocking motherboards for low pricing.

These placeholders should do if AMD parts are going to be similarly priced

 

I already have a PSU that I can transfer over but just in case I can factor this into my budget:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438012

 

This PSU is more for my current build which is going to lose the PSU to the new build.

Its tier 3 and should do the job for my current build and make it last for the person i am giving it to.

I already have a seasonic G series 650W PSU right now that i got on sale and that is going into my new build.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151118

 

I am still going to have decent RAM

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233751

And most DDR4 RAM runs about the same price, I still want heat spreaders though because I dont want my ram to stutter due to heat.

I actually had a set of ram die that way, very sad.

 

Finally the case...

 

I have a tough decision to make here as I kind of want small form factor here so I am thinking of going with this:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811353062&ignorebbr=1

 

My current desktop is huge and takes up a lot of room next to my monitor, its so big I cannot fit it onto the bottom of my desk as its wide and it teeters off the side.

Now yes there are better cases but I kind of want to go the cube PC route next round without breaking the bank.

And I still use optical media and buying a external optical media player is out of the question just so I can have a better case like the corsair air 240.

There is the node 804 which has slim drive support but its way out of my price range at $110

Plus a slim drive is still expensive, no thanks.

 

There is also this case:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144296&ignorebbr=1

 

or this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144316&ignorebbr=1

 

Seems good enough and probably better than the cuboid due to a better quality fan.

I only have a single SSD so no worries about losing the ability to use multiple SSD's.

 

 

At most this case will do okay too http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0FU4304876

 

The dual chamber similar to the corsair air 250 but with optical drive support

 

So its not like my options are too limited, but i still got to watch myself.

 

All i know is that I am looking forward to another build, but your input is appreciated :D


Edited by MadmanRB, 01 January 2017 - 12:12 PM.

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Posted 01 January 2017 - 12:58 PM

We still don't know Zen's exact pricing and when you are buying, prices for other parts too are different.



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Posted 01 January 2017 - 01:01 PM

Indeed thus why I am still considering this processor:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117564

 

Its essentially the skylake version of my current processor the core i5 4460 and I can afford it


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Posted 01 January 2017 - 01:29 PM

For the sake of simplicity, I've organised a full parts list on PcPartPicker and edited every part to their Newegg prices https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hYgy8K

 

WIth the 1060 3GB, I'd reccomend going over to the RX 480, both are almost equal in performance except the 480 has an extra GB of VRAM which is always helpful https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BVczpb

 

I'd wait on the processors as the prices may go down prior to the release of AMD Zen. The i3 6300 isn't that much more powerful than a 6100 which makes it pretty overpriced. http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i3-6300-vs-Intel-Core-i3-6100/3536vs3511

 

With a bit of luck, the prices of CPU's will go down and you may end up being able to afford an i5 6400 or even a 6500 for better single core performance.



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Posted 01 January 2017 - 01:37 PM

The GPU is a toss up really, I am going off current prices I see on newegg.

I mean there is this RX 480:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137077

 

Or this:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131708

 

But I am also thinking of linux compatibility and sadly nvidia is still the better right now as far as linux drivers are concerned.

Linux is my primary OS and the GTX 1060 seems to have a good track record with it right now.


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Posted 01 January 2017 - 02:37 PM

Intel won't lower CPU prices when Zen arrives as there are enough morons that will buy Intel, no matter if AMD is better in everything AND cheaper. Then again Zen should offer much better price/performance ratio.



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Posted 01 January 2017 - 02:50 PM

Intel won't lower CPU prices when Zen arrives as there are enough morons that will buy Intel, no matter if AMD is better in everything AND cheaper. Then again Zen should offer much better price/performance ratio.

 

I would argue that Intel is better in single core performance and efficiency but with the rise of DirectX12, it will slowly get phased out due to the core counts on AMD chips. For now, certain Intel processors are better than their AMD counterparts.



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Posted 01 January 2017 - 02:51 PM

The GPU is a toss up really, I am going off current prices I see on newegg.

I mean there is this RX 480:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137077

 

Or this:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131708

 

But I am also thinking of linux compatibility and sadly nvidia is still the better right now as far as linux drivers are concerned.

Linux is my primary OS and the GTX 1060 seems to have a good track record with it right now.

 

So what is your budget for a PC and do you need just the CPU, MOBO, RAM, GPU, Case and PSU or is there anything else that you need?



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Posted 01 January 2017 - 03:00 PM

Keeping things in or around $600 is ideal as i still need to buy windows again for gaming.

$536.84 is a good price with all parts ready, a licence of windows will take the cost up but i also run linux so I can go windows free for a while if needed.

I am not worried about hard drives as i got a spare laptop drive that works and can fit into my current case when I hand it down.

My current case is a raidmax viper GX II that is able to use SSD's and a laptop drive is fine for the hand me down nature of my current machine


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Posted 01 January 2017 - 03:14 PM

 

Intel won't lower CPU prices when Zen arrives as there are enough morons that will buy Intel, no matter if AMD is better in everything AND cheaper. Then again Zen should offer much better price/performance ratio.

 

I would argue that Intel is better in single core performance and efficiency but with the rise of DirectX12, it will slowly get phased out due to the core counts on AMD chips. For now, certain Intel processors are better than their AMD counterparts.

 

 

To clarify this: on Athlon64 era AMD chips were cheaper, faster, cooler etc than Intel chips. Still Intel sold much better.

 

Also these "better at everything compared to Intel" AMD chips were sometimes during that era not accepted even AMD offered them for FREE.

 

So yes, there are more than enough morons that will buy Intel, no matter AMD is faster, cooler and cheaper. That's why I don't expect big Intel price cuts right away even if Zen trounces Intel on every area.  After some time, probably yes.


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Posted 01 January 2017 - 04:08 PM

Funny in the AMD k7 years the qualty of the cpu vs the P4 cpus got to AMD head, then in the k8 years it was more of the same, now it seems thier back to being the underdog when it comes to CPUs and what they offor and at what price blows me away.



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Posted 01 January 2017 - 04:35 PM

Probably now times are better for AMD. Meaning that Intel cannot use too much illegal tactics like they did on Athlon64 era.



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Posted 01 January 2017 - 05:54 PM

As for the AMD vs Intel debate it matters not to me what is better, just what I can afford and get a good machine out of

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Posted 02 January 2017 - 01:39 AM

Well on the AMD topic here my pick of the day at $99 for a 6 core lots of cash ram too, sadly all the cpus come with suck heat sinks, that's something you haven't factored in to your list.

Sadly the 6 core AMD chip is like 95 TDP, I3 runs a lot cooler, i5 you linked too is only TDP 65

 

The AMD in question.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113286

 

AMD 6 core vs I3 vs i5 youtube vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJivg3CMhRQ

 

Stock cooler roundup.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10500/stock-cooler-roundup-intel-amd-vs-evo-212/6

 

Go to air cooler for cheap that lots of people seem to like.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099



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Posted 02 January 2017 - 02:44 PM

 

 

AMD 6 core vs I3 vs i5 youtube vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJivg3CMhRQ

 

That was with the older Intel's (e.g. the i3 is still a 3rd gen as an i3 3320). Besides, as it may come down to price, the FX 6300 is still a great CPU and if we were to save a bit of cash vs getting an i3 6100 to go for a better GPU then that would be ideal.

 

For OP, I'd suggest something like this: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7GWsM8

 

All products are available at Newegg except the Windows 10 licence which is an OEM however. The 1060 3GB is a low on RAM for the GPU's power so a 1060 6GB is a wiser choice in my opinion. You can bump it down to an RX 480 4GB which is the same price as a 1060 3GB except with an extra GB of VRAM which makes it less of a limiting factor. The FX 4350 is just a standard CPU with 4 Cores. It's a bit cheaper than the FX 6300 but with less cores for a tradeoff with better single core performance.






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