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Microsoft security essentials????

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#1 john11139


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Posted 30 December 2016 - 10:34 AM

Can Windows defender and windows firewall all be running at the same time. I have windows firewall on and it seems ok but when I go to W.defender it says another security program is running and wont turn on. To my knowledge and the programs shown, there are no other security programs.

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#2 hamluis



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Posted 30 December 2016 - 11:33 AM

Answer to question...yes, they both should be enabled at the same time.


Please download MiniToolBox  , save it to your desktop and run it.
Checkmark the following checkboxes:
  List last 10 Event Viewer log
  List Installed Programs
  List Users, Partitions and Memory size.
Click Go and paste the content into your next post.
Also...please Publish a Snapshot using Speccy taking care to post the link of the snapshot in your next post.

   Go to Piriform's website, and download the free version on the left.  Click Download from Piriform.com (the FileHippo link requires an extra click). Or if you want to use a portable version of Speccy (which doesn't require installation), click the builds page link and download the portable version. You will now be asked where you want to save the file. The best place to put it is the Desktop, as it will be easy to find later.

    After the file finishes downloading, you are ready to run Speccy. If you downloaded the installer, simply double-click on it and follow the prompts until installation is complete. If you downloaded the portable version, you will need to unzip it before use. Right-click the ZIP file and click Extract all. Click Next. Open up the extracted folder and double-click on Speccy.
     Once inside Speccy, it will look similar to this (with your computer's specifications, of course):

     Now, at the top, click File > Publish Snapshot.

     Click Yes > then Copy to Clipboard

Now, once you are back in the forum topic you are posting in, click the ADD REPLY or REPLY TO THIS TOPIC button. Right-click in the empty space of the Reply box and click Paste. Then, click Add Reply below the Reply box.


#3 MoxieMomma


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Posted 30 December 2016 - 11:39 AM

Since you posted here in the Win7 forum, I assume you are talking about a Win7 computer?
Windows Defender under Win7 is NOT a real anti-virus (AV).  It is a built-in, WEAK, anti-spyware application.
It will run by default unless it is disabled, but it does NOT replace a true AV.  And it is not very good at  real-time anti-malware/anti-spyware protection, either (there are much better, paid alternatives).
You still need a robust, real-time AV (either free or paid).
Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) is a free, MS anti-virus that must be separately installed.
It is probably "as good" as any of the free AVs and is user-friendly (although there are other, more robust free and paid alternatives).
So, yes, under Windows 7, Windows Defender (a weak anti-spyware program) will run with Windows Firewall.
Most or all of the 3rd-party AVs will at least partially disable Windows Defender when they are installed.
TBH, I'm not sure if MSE also disables WD.
I suggest having a look at @quietman7's excellent tutorials HERE for additional, more detailed information.
(None of the preceding applies to Windows 8/8.1/10.  On those platforms, "Windows Defender" is really a rebranded version of MSE. The nomenclature is confusing...)

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