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#1 Mike_Soda

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Posted 25 December 2016 - 12:50 PM

Shortly after logging into my PC this morning I encountered the following BSOD, the requested logs will be attached below. I've encountered others before quite frequently over the years but most of those I could immediately tell it was display driver related. Updating them sometimes fixed it although now there's no new drivers being made for my Graphics Card. So about a couple months ago I decide to underclock it from the stock 625Mhz to 525Mhz which appeared to have helped. It should be noted though that the BSOD's I experienced before were very random, occurring either twice a month or running flawlessly for 2 years. Furthermore I suspect this new BSOD (if it's not display driver related), could be caused by some telemetry updates I uninstalled a few weeks ago. As my entire Windows Reliability history is flooded with failures associated with that. So in addition to the logs below, I've also got a few questions regarding what I may be recommended to do as solutions. In the mean time I'll be running Driver Verifier, HDD Diagnostics & RAM as recommended via the BSOD posting instructions.

 

1: If I need to perform a clean install of Windows 7, is there a list of what updates I don't need so I can prevent them from downloading in the first place thus avoiding any corruption?

 

2: When performing a clean install of Windows 7, to prevent automatic updates from downloading them at the wrong time can I simply keep my PC unplugged from the ethernet until I configure Windows Update to NOT update automatically?

 

3: Could CCleaner's Registery Cleaner tool be to blame? I've last run it a week or so ago but don't remember what it deleted or how I can view the past changes without automatically reverting them.

 

System Specs:

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit OEM (Pre-Installed by Cyberpower PC but I do have a recovery disc)

I got this PC from Newegg a little over 5 years ago.

I have never re-installed the OS but am anxious to try if it will solve this issue.

CPU: AMD Athlon X2 260 3.2Ghz

GPU: AMD Radeon HD 6450 1GB DDR3 525Mhz

Motherboard: ASUS M4N68T-M-V2

PSU: TurboLink ATX-TL 500W-BLK 12V (I know cheap generic PSU's don't always produce their max rated voltage)

I'm not sure of the exact model number of this Desktop PC but here's the whole system, although the PSU is not the original as that one's fan seized so my warranty covered a replacement). http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229254

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Posted 25 December 2016 - 01:05 PM

*Update: Upon reading the third "spoiler" for Driver Verifier it stated the tool must run for at least 24 hours. This is impossible for me to do as my PC is so loud I will not be able to sleep. I'll be running the other tools for now but I can't do any sort of test that will extend into the night. I did create a system restore point anyway though in the event someone get's back with me & can inform that Driver Verifier won't take 24 hours.

 

*2nd Update: I'm very sorry but until I receive a reply assuring me of how to perform Driver Verifier, HDD Diagnostics & RAM tests on my system in particular I have to decline for now. Mainly because I've tried configuring my BIOS to boot from my USB before in order to perform a BIOS update & it wouldn't even recognize it. I really truly hope I can just perform a clean install of Windows 7 instead as doing that will be a lot easier & less risky for me than the above suggested tests I think. If I'm wrong please correct me it's just this is my ONLY PC so if something goes wrong, I have absolutely no way of ever contacting BC for help on how to fix it.


Edited by Mike_Soda, 25 December 2016 - 01:22 PM.

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Posted 27 December 2016 - 08:53 AM

1 - thanks to CKing123, we have this link to help w/W7 updating:  http://wu.krelay.de/en/

2.  See the above link for his recommendations.  I leave the computers at work connected to the internet while I update them.

3.  We do not recommend the use of registry cleaners here.  A long time ago I repeated ran Microsoft's own RegClean tool - and it corrupted my system to the point where it wouldn't boot.

 

If you can't run Driver Verifier for 24 hours, then you can't.  Most crashes in Driver Verifier occur fairly quickly, so you may not need to run it that long.

 

If you can't do the BIOS update - then skip it (they're not as critical w/W7 as they are with W8/10).

Messing around with a BIOS update isn't advisable if this is your only means of communicating on the internet.

 

I have a concern here that you may be getting in over your head here.

We're willing to help out with most stuff - but if you're not able and confident enough to perform thsee things - maybe it's best to take it to a pro?

 

As for the bootable hard drive and memory tests:

- run a Hard Drive diagnostic inside of Windows - download the Seagate Seatools for Windows tool

- for the MemTest, download the bootable MemTest86 tool - NOT the MemTest86+ (the 86 tool is UEFI compatible, the 86+ tool isn't)

 

Feel free to perform a "clean" install of W7

If it's truly a "clean" install, then it'll serve to rule out both Windows problems and 3rd party software problems.

This leaves hardware as the probable cause (if the problems continue after the "clean" install)

Clean Install:  http://www.carrona.org/canned.html#clean

 

Here's the analysis of the reports that you uploaded:

 

AMD OverDrive (AODDriver2.sys) is either a stand-alone application, or a component of the AMD VISION Engine Control Center.  This driver is known to cause BSOD's on some Windows systems.

 

NOTE:  these symptoms were from the previous release of OverDrive.  The new release uses the same driver name, but is dated from 4 November 2013.

Please un-install all AMD/ATI video stuff from Control Panel...Programs...Un-install a program.
Please note that I stated "video stuff", as some integrated processors may have the graphics chip built in (which may involve the chipset software).
Then, download (but DO NOT install) a fresh copy of the ATI drivers from http://www.amd.com (in the upper right corner of the page)
Use this procedure to install the DRIVER ONLYhttp://www.sysnative.com/forums/showthread.php/668-ATI-video-cards-DRIVER-ONLY-installation-procedure

If the device (AODDriver or AODDriver4.01) remains a problem, open Device Manager, select the "View" item.
Then select "Show hidden devices" and scroll down to the Non-Plug and Play Drivers section.
Locate the AODDriver entry, right click on it and select "Un-install".  Reboot for changes to take affect.

Sometimes the entry will remain in Device Manager even though you've removed it.  So, open up Device Manager and check for the AODDriver4.2.0 (it may have another number).  Right click on it and select "Uninstall".  If it asks to remove software, put a check in the box.  Then click on OK.

Sometimes the driver remains and continues to cause BSOD's.  If this is the case for you, post back and we'll give further instructions for safely removing it.

If overclocking, please stop. Remove the overclock and return the system to stock/standard values while we're troubleshooting. Once the system is stable again, feel free to resume the overclocking.

 

Although you appear to have a reasonable number of Windows Update hotfixes for this version of your OS, please double check for any new Windows Updates.  It only takes one update to cause a problem, so it's essential that you have all of them.  The actual number is not important.  Rather it's important that you checked manually, installed any available updates, and didn't experience any errors when checking or updating.

Many, many BSOD's and Live Kernel Events in the WER section of the MSINFO32 report.

Yet only 1 memory dump in the uploaded reports.

I have to wonder about hardware problems because of this.

Please start with these free hardware diagnostics:  http://www.carrona.org/hwdiag.html

Start with the video tests (the reports are suggestive of a video problem), but please run ALL of the tests and let us know the results.

 

Analysis:
The following is for information purposes only. The following information contains the relevant information from the blue screen analysis:
**************************Sun Dec 25 10:11:13.757 2016 (UTC - 5:00)**************************
Loading Dump File [C:\Users\john\SysnativeBSODApps\122516-16302-01.dmp]
Windows 7 Kernel Version 7601 (Service Pack 1) MP (2 procs) Free x64
Built by: 7601.23572.amd64fre.win7sp1_ldr.161011-0600
System Uptime:0 days 0:02:03.037
Probably caused by :HIDCLASS.SYS ( HIDCLASS+50e3 )
BugCheck 44, {fffffa800583f280, 1d8d, 0, 0}
BugCheck Info: MULTIPLE_IRP_COMPLETE_REQUESTS (44)
Arguments:
Arg1: fffffa800583f280, Address of the IRP
Arg2: 0000000000001d8d
Arg3: 0000000000000000
Arg4: 0000000000000000
BUGCHECK_STR:  0x44
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  WIN7_DRIVER_FAULT
PROCESS_NAME:  System
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: X64_0x44_HIDCLASS+50e3
  BIOS Version                  0702   
  BIOS Release Date             01/26/2011
  Manufacturer                  System manufacturer
  Baseboard Manufacturer        ASUSTeK Computer INC.
  Product Name                  System Product Name
  Baseboard Product             M4N68T-M-V2
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3rd Party Drivers:
The following is for information purposes only. My recommendations were given above. The drivers that follow belong to software or devices that were not developed by Microsoft.  You can find links to the driver information and where to update the drivers in the section after the code box:

**************************Sun Dec 25 10:11:13.757 2016 (UTC - 5:00)**************************
ASACPI.sys              Wed Jul 15 23:31:29 2009 (4A5E9F11)
amdxata.sys             Fri Mar 19 12:18:18 2010 (4BA3A3CA)
nvstor.sys              Fri Mar 19 16:45:11 2010 (4BA3E257)
nvstor64.sys            Fri Apr  9 05:22:41 2010 (4BBEF1E1)
viahduaa.sys            Sat May 15 06:22:39 2010 (4BEE75EF)
nvmf6264.sys            Thu Aug 12 07:46:06 2010 (4C63DEFE)
CorsairVBusDriver.sys   Wed May  6 09:10:40 2015 (554A12D0)
CorsairVHidDriver.sys   Wed May  6 09:10:41 2015 (554A12D1)
MpFilter.sys            Fri Oct 30 02:29:35 2015 (56330E4F)
atikmpag.sys            Fri Feb 26 14:58:13 2016 (56D0AE55)
AtihdW76.sys            Fri Feb 26 15:18:00 2016 (56D0B2F8)
atikmdag.sys            Fri Feb 26 15:29:22 2016 (56D0B5A2)

http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=ASACPI.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=amdxata.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=nvstor.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=nvstor64.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=viahduaa.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=nvmf6264.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=CorsairVBusDriver.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=CorsairVHidDriver.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=MpFilter.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=atikmpag.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=AtihdW76.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=atikmdag.sys
 


Edited by usasma, 27 December 2016 - 08:54 AM.

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Posted 27 December 2016 - 12:42 PM

1 - thanks to CKing123, we have this link to help w/W7 updating:  http://wu.krelay.de/en/

2.  See the above link for his recommendations.  I leave the computers at work connected to the internet while I update them.

3.  We do not recommend the use of registry cleaners here.  A long time ago I repeated ran Microsoft's own RegClean tool - and it corrupted my system to the point where it wouldn't boot.

 

If you can't run Driver Verifier for 24 hours, then you can't.  Most crashes in Driver Verifier occur fairly quickly, so you may not need to run it that long.

 

If you can't do the BIOS update - then skip it (they're not as critical w/W7 as they are with W8/10).

Messing around with a BIOS update isn't advisable if this is your only means of communicating on the internet.

 

I have a concern here that you may be getting in over your head here.

We're willing to help out with most stuff - but if you're not able and confident enough to perform thsee things - maybe it's best to take it to a pro?

 

As for the bootable hard drive and memory tests:

- run a Hard Drive diagnostic inside of Windows - download the Seagate Seatools for Windows tool

- for the MemTest, download the bootable MemTest86 tool - NOT the MemTest86+ (the 86 tool is UEFI compatible, the 86+ tool isn't)

 

Feel free to perform a "clean" install of W7

If it's truly a "clean" install, then it'll serve to rule out both Windows problems and 3rd party software problems.

This leaves hardware as the probable cause (if the problems continue after the "clean" install)

Clean Install:  http://www.carrona.org/canned.html#clean

 

Here's the analysis of the reports that you uploaded:

 

AMD OverDrive (AODDriver2.sys) is either a stand-alone application, or a component of the AMD VISION Engine Control Center.  This driver is known to cause BSOD's on some Windows systems.

 

NOTE:  these symptoms were from the previous release of OverDrive.  The new release uses the same driver name, but is dated from 4 November 2013.

 

Please un-install all AMD/ATI video stuff from Control Panel...Programs...Un-install a program.
Please note that I stated "video stuff", as some integrated processors may have the graphics chip built in (which may involve the chipset software).
Then, download (but DO NOT install) a fresh copy of the ATI drivers from http://www.amd.com (in the upper right corner of the page)
Use this procedure to install the DRIVER ONLYhttp://www.sysnative.com/forums/showthread.php/668-ATI-video-cards-DRIVER-ONLY-installation-procedure

If the device (AODDriver or AODDriver4.01) remains a problem, open Device Manager, select the "View" item.
Then select "Show hidden devices" and scroll down to the Non-Plug and Play Drivers section.
Locate the AODDriver entry, right click on it and select "Un-install".  Reboot for changes to take affect.

Sometimes the entry will remain in Device Manager even though you've removed it.  So, open up Device Manager and check for the AODDriver4.2.0 (it may have another number).  Right click on it and select "Uninstall".  If it asks to remove software, put a check in the box.  Then click on OK.

Sometimes the driver remains and continues to cause BSOD's.  If this is the case for you, post back and we'll give further instructions for safely removing it.

If overclocking, please stop. Remove the overclock and return the system to stock/standard values while we're troubleshooting. Once the system is stable again, feel free to resume the overclocking.

 

Although you appear to have a reasonable number of Windows Update hotfixes for this version of your OS, please double check for any new Windows Updates.  It only takes one update to cause a problem, so it's essential that you have all of them.  The actual number is not important.  Rather it's important that you checked manually, installed any available updates, and didn't experience any errors when checking or updating.

Many, many BSOD's and Live Kernel Events in the WER section of the MSINFO32 report.

Yet only 1 memory dump in the uploaded reports.

I have to wonder about hardware problems because of this.

Please start with these free hardware diagnostics:  http://www.carrona.org/hwdiag.html

Start with the video tests (the reports are suggestive of a video problem), but please run ALL of the tests and let us know the results.

Thank you for getting back with me, although it may take me a few days to get all this done. Unfortunately I don't have the ability to take it to a pro as none exist where I live that actually know what they're doing. I have to learn anyway as I'll be building my own 1st system in a couple months & I'm sure other issues will arise. I only thought to perform the clean install of Win 7 offline so that way none of the telemetry updates I have currently uninstalled get reinstalled. I'll include a list of those below for you to take a look at & let me know if I need them regardless. I've performed an AMD Driver Only install before & I still encountered a BSOD but while gaming. Although I didn't have the extra steps you highlighted via device manager to manually remove ADODriver. I'm not overclocking but am underclocking, should I still revert my GPU back to stock settings anyway?

 

Here's the order I plan to do all this in, please let me know if it's fine or incorrect. 1: run Driver Verifier for 10+ hours, 2: run seagate hdd test inside windows, 3: run the mem test, 4: clean install windows 7 after you've reviewed my driver, hdd & mem test results, 5: download a fresh copy of my GPU software but only install the driver, 6: check if it's still in device manager & manually remove it via the instructions you provided.

 

Here are the what I was told to be unnecessary, telemetry updates I uninstalled & hid, do I need them anyway? KB2592687, KB2952664, KB3021917, KB3068708, KB3080149


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Posted 27 December 2016 - 01:21 PM

If you have the abilty to burn dvds you should make copys of the following, i use them to rebuild computers when needed.

 

http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/

 

http://www.hirensbootcd.org/

 

https://www.linuxmint.com/

 

All the CDs/DVD's are live boot, in linux with no hdd connected to the computer you can have a 100% working Os and desktop and download updates or patchs.

One has a live boot hacked version of winxp



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Posted 27 December 2016 - 01:41 PM

If you have the abilty to burn dvds you should make copys of the following, i use them to rebuild computers when needed.

 

http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/

 

http://www.hirensbootcd.org/

 

https://www.linuxmint.com/

 

All the CDs/DVD's are live boot, in linux with no hdd connected to the computer you can have a 100% working Os and desktop and download updates or patchs.

One has a live boot hacked version of winxp

I think my optical drive can but I don't have any blank DVD's, only 3 Maxell CD-R 80min/700MB discs. Thanks but I'll await further verification on my posted plan before continuing because this is my first time doing a clean install of any OS I'd like it to be as simple as possible. Hopefully the Win 7 install/update process doesn't take more than a few hours, 7200 RPM Hitachi HDD so it shouldn't.


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Posted 28 December 2016 - 12:25 PM

Please un-install all AMD/ATI video stuff from Control Panel...Programs...Un-install a program.

I have to wonder about hardware problems because of this.

Please start with these free hardware diagnostics:  http://www.carrona.org/hwdiag.html

Start with the video tests (the reports are suggestive of a video problem), but please run ALL of the tests and let us know the results.

The instructions provided here regarding Furmark are not matching up to the program's interface. So I have no idea what to actually do when it says select "stability test" & "long test" but the only options I have are a stress test, other resolution presets & the ability to change how many milliseconds long the test is. For me to do this which I really want to because I'm tired of my PC being unstable, I need step by step instructions that match up to the interfaces so I don't make a critical mistake.


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Posted 29 December 2016 - 09:18 AM

This is just a rough and ready test to see if the GPU is messed up - we're not looking for specific settings/resolutions (that's for more advanced troubleshooting that I don't get involved with).

Just run the stress test (I have to update the instructions - but I'm a bit lazy :)

Just run the test "as is" - keep an eye on the temps, and notice anything strange/bad that happens.

If you think things are getting out of hand, shut the system off - even if it means pulling the power cord out of the wall.

 

For the temps, you're looking for them to level out (stop rising) and preferably at a level that isn't dangerous (temps above 90ºC are getting dangerous).

Let us know what the temps level out at - as we may suggest some "tuning" of the GPU cooling solution if they're a bit on the high side.

 

Test results are generally one or more of the following:

- I had to shut it down because it got out of hand

- I saw some problems with the video display

- the temps were getting a bit high

- the system was running very slow (BTW - this is normal)

- nothing went wrong.


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Posted 29 December 2016 - 02:00 PM

This is just a rough and ready test to see if the GPU is messed up - we're not looking for specific settings/resolutions (that's for more advanced troubleshooting that I don't get involved with).

Just run the stress test (I have to update the instructions - but I'm a bit lazy :)

Just run the test "as is" - keep an eye on the temps, and notice anything strange/bad that happens.

If you think things are getting out of hand, shut the system off - even if it means pulling the power cord out of the wall.

 

For the temps, you're looking for them to level out (stop rising) and preferably at a level that isn't dangerous (temps above 90ºC are getting dangerous).

Let us know what the temps level out at - as we may suggest some "tuning" of the GPU cooling solution if they're a bit on the high side.

 

Test results are generally one or more of the following:

- I had to shut it down because it got out of hand

- I saw some problems with the video display

- the temps were getting a bit high

- the system was running very slow (BTW - this is normal)

- nothing went wrong.

Thank you, I ran Furmark for over an hour & temp never went above 62C nor did it crash, stayed between 59 & 61 most of the time. I'll be running the rest of the video tests when I get home tonight & I was going to wait to make another reply until then but I encountered something odd. When attempting to make a MemTest86 V7.2 Free bootable USB, the download from here just kept cycling. Time remaining kept saying Unknown & the zip folder persisted to say 0 bytes contained after over 15 minutes. However when I tried downloading the CD ISO image it was instantaneous & burned to the disc just fine. I'm guessing it's a technical problem on their end but just thought I'd let you & the rest here know that the USB image isn't working. Hopefully it's fixed soon as I'd rather have a USB copy of memtest86 for future new build that won't have an optical drive.


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Posted 01 January 2017 - 06:50 AM

You can use Rufus to make an ISO bootable on a flash drive.

I haven't tried it with MemTest on Rufus, but have tried it on Yumi.  BTW - both are free

Sometimes it requires a bit of fiddling, but it's just a matter of trying different settings until you find one that works for you.

 

Rufus:  https://rufus.akeo.ie/

Yumi:  https://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/


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Posted 01 January 2017 - 12:22 PM

You can use Rufus to make an ISO bootable on a flash drive.

I haven't tried it with MemTest on Rufus, but have tried it on Yumi.  BTW - both are free

Sometimes it requires a bit of fiddling, but it's just a matter of trying different settings until you find one that works for you.

 

Rufus:  https://rufus.akeo.ie/

Yumi:  https://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/

Okay so I have some good news but first, I've discovered why there's only 1 memory dump. Apparently in recent versions of CClener the option to clear memory dumps is on by default. I knew not to do this prior but didn't notice they made the change. I've got some more detailed questions regarding CCleaner but more about that later. I ran all of the GPU & VRAM tests for over an hour & none crashed nor encountered any errors, temperatures never exceeded 62c. As for the CPU tests all of those were flawless too even after several hours, socket maxed out at 53c & the cores at 44c. Memtest86 CD & Seagate Seatools both reported back no RAM or disc errors, plus I even ran all of your Malware scanners which reported I'm completely clean. Finally, Driver Verifier ran for over 16 straight hours & nothing went wrong, no errors or BSOD's.

 

1: The Windows 7 Home SP1 disc that came with my PC claims it's for backup & recovery purposes only, so I fear Cyberpower may have cheaped out & not given me a full copy of the OEM OS. Should I test it by popping inside my drive to check for an option to install?

 

2: Whether I decide to do a clean OS install or not, should I finish by doing the clean install display driver only instructions & immediately remove AODDriver that you listed above?

 

3: Should I ask on the Windows Category of these forums whether or not I should re-install the currently uninstalled Telemetry updates?

 

4: As I won't be using the Registry Cleaner anymore I'm starting to wonder if I even need the program. Could you provide any input on which CCleaner tools & particular settings I should use if any at all?


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Posted 03 January 2017 - 06:26 AM

Most Cyberpower recovery disks that I've seen contain a full copy of the OS, and may contain some extra stuff that they included as "value added" software

 

Try the clean display driver only suggestions and remove AMD OverDrive - then see if that helps.
The point here is that this is less work than a full reinstall - so if it doesn't work, you haven't lost much - and can easily change your mind and wipe the system.

 

I do not advise on Windows Updates.  You may get different update advice from different members.

As for blocking updates.  If you don't know what you're blocking, I find it curious that you'd block it "just in case" - not knowing if it'll affect your system adversely or not.

I would strongly suggest getting some advice from someone who is very knowledgeable about Windows Updates.  The place to start is in our Windows 7 forums - and maybe even at Sysnative Forums (where a lot of the Windows Updates experts have trained).

 

CCleaner is a valuable program with a lot of valuable tools included.
That being said, I don't think that there's a need to have it installed for regular use.

Here's the stat's on your hard drive:

 

Drive    C:
Description    Local Fixed Disk
Compressed    No
File System    NTFS
Size    931.41 GB (1,000,097,181,696 bytes)
Free Space    873.88 GB (938,325,368,832 bytes)
Volume Name    
Volume Serial Number    F0E101A3

You've only used about 60 gB of the total 1 tB hard drive.  You have 873 gB free to use.
I wouldn't worry about free space for a long, long time on this system (unless you start collecting music, pictures, or moves)

Windows takes care of it's housekeeping duties pretty well on it's own, so I dont' see a need for an additional cleaner

If you want to clean up the hard drive - use the "cleanmgr" command - it'll let you clean out most of the junk without damaging things


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Posted 03 January 2017 - 12:25 PM

Most Cyberpower recovery disks that I've seen contain a full copy of the OS, and may contain some extra stuff that they included as "value added" software

 

Try the clean display driver only suggestions and remove AMD OverDrive - then see if that helps.
The point here is that this is less work than a full reinstall - so if it doesn't work, you haven't lost much - and can easily change your mind and wipe the system.

 

I do not advise on Windows Updates.  You may get different update advice from different members.

As for blocking updates.  If you don't know what you're blocking, I find it curious that you'd block it "just in case" - not knowing if it'll affect your system adversely or not.

I would strongly suggest getting some advice from someone who is very knowledgeable about Windows Updates.  The place to start is in our Windows 7 forums - and maybe even at Sysnative Forums (where a lot of the Windows Updates experts have trained).

 

CCleaner is a valuable program with a lot of valuable tools included.
That being said, I don't think that there's a need to have it installed for regular use.

Here's the stat's on your hard drive:

 

Drive    C:
Description    Local Fixed Disk
Compressed    No
File System    NTFS
Size    931.41 GB (1,000,097,181,696 bytes)
Free Space    873.88 GB (938,325,368,832 bytes)
Volume Name    
Volume Serial Number    F0E101A3

You've only used about 60 gB of the total 1 tB hard drive.  You have 873 gB free to use.
I wouldn't worry about free space for a long, long time on this system (unless you start collecting music, pictures, or moves)

Windows takes care of it's housekeeping duties pretty well on it's own, so I dont' see a need for an additional cleaner

If you want to clean up the hard drive - use the "cleanmgr" command - it'll let you clean out most of the junk without damaging things

Thank you so much for all your help, I may still do that total clean install someday but for now just the GPU drivers with DDU tool. The updates I have uninstalled/blocked I heard about via a video where the uploader & many viewers performed it without any problems. Although as always I do have a little doubt now so I will make a post on the Win 7 category of BC very soon. I'll keep CCleaner installed for now but will never use the registry cleaner portion ever again.

 

*Edit: I forgot to ask, after I perform the clean GPU Driver Only install, can I delete the amd-catalyst-15.7.1 installer file?


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Posted 05 January 2017 - 09:09 AM

 

*Edit: I forgot to ask, after I perform the clean GPU Driver Only install, can I delete the amd-catalyst-15.7.1 installer file?

Yes, you can delete the installer file


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Posted 05 January 2017 - 01:24 PM

 

 

*Edit: I forgot to ask, after I perform the clean GPU Driver Only install, can I delete the amd-catalyst-15.7.1 installer file?

Yes, you can delete the installer file

 

Done & AODDriver hasn't come back so all seems good, thank you so much for all your help again.


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