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#1 synaptic

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Posted 22 December 2016 - 11:02 PM

I decided to remove Wine from Linux Mint Rosa ( I hardly ever used it and don't like it )
Now when I run Update I get errors relating to Wine remnants ( see screenie )

I've tried the usual commands ... remove , purge etc but still the same issues
I thought reinstalling it might sort it out , but no .

It's not a real problem , just irritating.
Am I missing something stupidly obvious ?

I would be grateful for any tips .

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Posted 22 December 2016 - 11:15 PM

You can do that with Synaptic Package Manager. When you login and then search/locate wine, and it shows up in the right pane, a right click on the corresponding checkbox > choose "Completely remove".


Condobloke ...Outback Australian  fed up with Windows antics...??....LINUX IS THE ANSWER....I USE LINUX MINT 18.3  EXCLUSIVELY.

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Posted 22 December 2016 - 11:20 PM

THIS PAGE is a good read


Condobloke ...Outback Australian  fed up with Windows antics...??....LINUX IS THE ANSWER....I USE LINUX MINT 18.3  EXCLUSIVELY.

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Posted 23 December 2016 - 01:57 AM

Have you tried:

apt-get --purge remove wine

apt-get autoremove

apt-get autoclean

apt-get clean

 

and then updating?

 

 

Also could try that Synpatic package manager thing, that fixed a distro i was working on.


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Posted 23 December 2016 - 03:07 AM

Thank you guys , for the quick and helpful responses .

 

@Condobloke

Thanks for that link .

I have been casually searching for weeks , using every combination of search terms I could think of ...

.... don't know how I missed that one !

But it appears I am not the only one with this problem .

 

@Viper_Security

I tried most , but not all of those commands , so I will try again with the exact sequence you suggest .

 

I will check out those suggestions ( as soon as people stop asking me for advice on christmas hardware purchases :) )


Edited by synaptic, 23 December 2016 - 03:10 AM.


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Posted 23 December 2016 - 03:10 AM

I learned my lesson the hard way, a little over a year back, a still active member whom I'll not call out by name (because I don't believe any harm was meant) came along with a Silverlight replacement software named 'Pipelight' to watch Netflix, Hulu/Hulu Plus & more. Unfortunately until it was too late, I then discovered that WINE was on my system, and performed the uninstall the regular way by select uninstall, not via the Package Manager. :(

 

Then I did what I had to, being a fresh install that took nearly three hours to fully setup less than a week earlier, and chose to open the Home folder & used the option to show hidden files & directories (there's a LOT more in there other than the user's 8-10 folders). Then I was able, one by one, to remove by deletion all remnants of WINE in about an hour, and after running the file checker one last time to ensure there were no more, ran 'sudo apt autoremove', which found a couple more. Then I was in business again.

 

Lesson learned, I no longer blindly install these 'little things' that may trigger other changes, will research first to see what's coming along for the ride. :)

 

To be honest, I have no idea why WINE shipped with Pipelight, it's only a plug-in, though the only thing that I can figure was that it's a copycat of a Microsoft product. Being that we can legally install Microsoft Fonts with  Synaptic (search 'tts-microsoft-installer') after agreeing to the EULA, may as well be offered Silverlight w/out WINE. :P

 

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Posted 23 December 2016 - 03:18 AM

@cat1092

 

Ouch  !!!

 

Sounds like you had a nightmare .

Are you saying that using the  "autoremove" command would have saved you all that manual clean-up work ?


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Posted 23 December 2016 - 04:56 AM

synaptic, it may well could have, being that I chose the hard way instead, will never know. :)

 

All I can advise is the 'try & see' approach & view the results. Though I'd still manually check the hidden files in the Home directory before declaring that all remnants of WINE is gone. That's where the configuration files of many apps ends up, and debunks the conception that there's more in there other than the 8-10 main folders that's seen in one's main Home folder. These has to go somewhere, because normally once setup, root will practically remain the same size for years. This was also a mistake on my part when 'fresh upgrading' Linux Mint with every release from Mint 12 (may have been 11) through Mint 17.1, when I decided that more room was needed for virtual machines & purchased a 1TiB Seagate HDD that's very fast (ST1000DM003) & clean installed the entire drive. Used half for Linux Mint /home & the other half for Windows Data. The deal was a bundle that included a 120GiB Samsung 850 EVO for $99.99 that I used elsewhere, for only $30 more, this was when that size was a bit higher in cost & so was the Seagate HDD (alone would had been $69.99), so came out smelling like a rose. :)

 

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Then I placed the old drive in the docking station, and for every folder on the new that had content in the old, deleted these in the new & transferred the old over by 'drag & drop' method, the one that took the most time was the VMware folder, which had half a dozen VM's within. Then once all was up & running, a day or two later got to looking, and chose to see the hidden files & directories, after deleting all of the old folders that had content (once copied elsewhere), there was over 3GiB of nothing except mostly pure junk. Some of these files were over 4 years old & no wonder why I had icons showing after a 'fresh upgrade' (formatting root only & assigning Swap & Home), just never ticked the Format box of Home. 

 

Will never make that mistake again, with every new Linux Mint LTS, will backup my main folders to an external, format all, root is on SSD, Swap & /home is on HDD (except on three notebooks). I prefer the PC at home because first off for the power, and secondly, can give an entire HDD to Linux Mint /home if needed. :)

 

So if this should happen again, will uninstall WINE & it's dependencies from the Package Manager & then run 'sudo apt autoclean', then check Home for leftovers. I just don't fully trust these automated (or power) uninstallers on any OS, will go in there & often find things left behind, regardless of OS brand. However, I'll readily admit that Linux does a much better job at cleanup than the four pane OS with a wallpaper that looks like a prison cell or dungeon with a bit of light shining in, whoever came up with that needs to be placed on the cleaning squad. :P

 

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 01:34 AM

Hi synaptic!

 

From Cat:

 

 

Though I'd still manually check the hidden files in the Home directory before declaring that all remnants of WINE is gone.

 

... and quite so :thumbup2:

 

@Condobloke:

 

Nice find in #3 Brian, because it also illustrates a mistaken reading of a tilde for a dash/hyphen in a command, which is a common error sometimes even persisting through a copy & paste, depending on the fonts structure used.

 

@Viper_Security:

 

Good rollcall of cleanup measures, albeit checking the Home folder as Cat has said should be paired with it/them.

 

@synaptic:

 

Some of those commands mentioned by Viper can be further explored at an old Topic I had here:

 

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/605768/hoovering-linux-housekeeping-benefits/

 

... if you have the interest. As well as cleaning up, the processes can save you gigabytes, as Friend pcpunk and I have found.

 

Enjoy Linux, all

 

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 02:36 AM

Just stepping back from the Wine issue for moment ....

This thread ( and links kindly provided by contributors ) has shown me that I may have made an incorrect assumption about Linux.

I always thought it was much better than other operating systems at cleaning up after itself , but now it appears it can act like a difficult teenager ...

.... pizza boxes , candy wrappers and dirty underwear shoved under the bed , and in dusty corners - :)

 

Anyway , I now have plenty of background reading to catch-up on ( luckily it is the ideal time of year to do it )

Thanks again to all for tips and suggestions

 

@wizardfromoz

 - thanks for posting the link to your earlier writings on housekeeping   .... excellent !


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Posted 24 December 2016 - 03:09 AM

 

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 - thanks for posting the link to your earlier writings on housekeeping   .... excellent !

 

You are certainly welcome, friend.

 

Linux is not the land of milk and honey - but then I spent 25 years with Windows, and in comparison, it is, lol.

 

Fragmentation under Linux is almost unheard of. Non-contiguous files, what are they?

 

I won't further extol the virtues of Linux over the alternatives, as it would be off-topic here. Suffice it to say - I can't get enough of the bugger, hence running 48 of them, and adding another out in the Garage - MX-16, a Debian-based Distro from mepis.org - as soon as I post this from the study.

 

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 07:17 AM

Morning, all.

 

Even Puppy, although extremely good at removing all components of an app when uninstalling (including config files, thankfully), still has this weird habit of leaving empty directories all over the place that previously held those same config files...

 

I'll agree with Wiz, though. I'd still take it over Windoze, any day of the week..!  :lol:

 

 

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 08:32 AM

 

 

Linux is not the land of milk and honey - but then I spent 25 years with Windows, and in comparison, it is, lol.

 

Think of those who has always been on Linux, has never seen a Windows OS at all, or cannot afford the OS. I'm sure that many of these folks will gladly proclaim that Linux is the land of the milk & honey, as it's set them free to roam the planet at no charge other than for the hardware. Speaking of which, in some areas, a 10 year old machine is like a brand new one to many of us fortunate folks. :)

 

Something to think about this holiday season, how fortunate we are compared to many & what we can do to assist others in need. Back when I was still deep in learning, performed a lot of work on a pro bono basis, though would accept tips, unless the folks looked like they needed it more than myself. Still have some friends from those days, getting fresh veggies in the season, an occasional deer shoulder every now & then. In fact, today we're cooking a pot of collards given to us by one of my early clients while learning, she brought by two fully cleaned heads, ready to cook. :)

 

While I do work for cash, it was these folks that got me started, and if any called on me today, would assist at no charge other than needed components, unless I have a spare that's otherwise not going to be used, often components of the DDR & DDR2 eras (usually DDR2 at this time). These, I'll give away to be rid of any, and I still collect computers that are given to me to repair others at little to no charge for the needy. :thumbsup:

 

However, my latest regulars, I have a feel for their income & have raised pricing w/out loss of business, a 20% across the board increase, if a reinstall isn't worth $75, then they can go & get pricing at PC shops or Best Buy, and most gladly returns to me for the job. 

 

 

 

Fragmentation under Linux is almost unheard of.

 

Yes, I recall that we all had a discussion about this well over a year back, maybe two by now, it's so low that fragmentation is a non-factor for Linux users. Compared to Windows users, who had best perform their first defrag before updating, to later have space to shrink for a dual boot of Linux (or a Data partition). The Linux filesystem is a very smart one & knows where to place each file to prevent fragmentation before it sets in. This is another reason why even on low-spec hardware, a Linux install is fast, no fragmentation means more speed, not having to bounce all over the drive to find files (like a maintenance person walking around a parking lot picking up debris, some here & there). No issue on Linux, and somewhere within this Forum, a discussion where several of us put our systems to the test, the results were awesome! :)

 

If by chance one wants WINE installed on their Linux system, I'll do it, yet will warn of the dangers that may lie ahead, it's opening a door for Malware to sneak in, and more are becoming aware of this. Many PC shops may not do this, or may even be ignorant of the fact, however I feel it to be my duty to let my customers know about this. Other extras that I perform at no charge are the removal of Fast Boot (a gimmick that slowly destroys mobile computers), and also Secure Boot, which prevents some Linux based tools from booting & if a tower PC, may prevent issues when installing sound & graphics cards. The user is responsible for having an active anti-Malware to load at boot, all Secure Boot does is place the computer is shackles. 

 

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 03:03 PM

I would suggest trying to fix the dependency issues, and then uninstalling again.

To do so try:

sudo apt-get -f install
sudo apt-get purge wine


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Posted 24 December 2016 - 03:14 PM

 

I would suggest trying to fix the dependency issues, and then uninstalling again.

To do so try:

sudo apt-get -f install
sudo apt-get purge wine

I completely spaced the "-f install" thank you hollowface!


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