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Windows Defender on Win7.1 and Win8.1


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#1 Jaycan

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Posted 19 December 2016 - 05:40 PM

Hello -

Lots of recent dramas with Windows Defender Updates ( KB2267602 ). This will not update. Also no problems with other Updates.

 

Is this related to M.S.E. as I am not asking for other Antivirus program if it is. I normally get daily updates of this one, so I figured it may be related.

For the last week or 2 it will not install, and this KB has a long history of not installing (you can Google anything related to it).

 

Note that I recently installed MBAM Pro version.

 

I just get messages in the tray that I should update Defender, but it sticks at about 30% ( Scan or Update ). Delete / reinstall is useless.

 

Thanks for any ideas..



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Posted 19 December 2016 - 05:54 PM

Windows Defender in Windows 7/Vista is just an anti-malware (anti-spyware) program intended to supplement your anti-virus program, not replace it.

Although it uses the same name, Windows 8 and Windows 10 integrates a more robust version of Windows 8/10 Defender) for its anti-virus and anti-malware protection.

I use Windows 7, so that version of Defender has been turned off for years since there are far more effective anti-malware programs to use.

There have been several complaints at Microsoft Community forums in regards to KB2267602 not installing or updating properly...the last two were early in Dec 2106...see here.
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Posted 19 December 2016 - 07:10 PM

Hi -

Not a lot of help, as it would update every day or so previously.

Now all I get is a "Rolling Updater Castle" in the tray, and the Flag with 2 X issues, Update Virus Protection, and Update Spyware Protection. Both listed as important ??

I do have MBAM Pro installed recently, could this be a cause ??

 

Both of these point to Defender on Win 7 and Win 8

.the last two were early in Dec 2106.

You also see future problems..  :rolleyes:  but I understand - Typo -

 

This issue ( KB2267602 ) can be traced back for quite a few years now, and no solution is very good from M/soft or private..



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Posted 19 December 2016 - 07:16 PM

Your link Windows Defender in Windows 7/Vista throws a block from MBAM ( checked 3 times ) !!

 

This is always the issue ( KB2267602 ) . Just started failing on mine .



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Posted 19 December 2016 - 07:16 PM

Quite a quagmire there......

 

I would try uninstalling mbm Pro.. or disabling it....I have lost touch with it since moving to Linux, so am no longer familiar with the mechanics of it.

 

If that doesnt do the trick.....have a read of the links below and see if reinstalling windows defender/mse will help...??

 

 

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/security/portal/mmpc/products/default.aspx

 

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/security/portal/mmpc/products/choices.aspx


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Posted 19 December 2016 - 07:18 PM

Definitely uninstall mbam.......the win defender link on q'mans post works fine here.

 

https://downloads.malwarebytes.org/file/mbam_clean


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Posted 19 December 2016 - 07:20 PM

Yes, a Google search does show the issue going back several years AND there is no good solution provided by Microsoft. As I said Windows 7 users can just disable and replace it. However, Windows 8 and 10 users who depend on Defender as their primary anti-virus should receive better support and a fix solution. Although Windows 8/10 Defender is just as good as any other free anti-virus...it's issues like this that frustrate many and they look for an alternative.
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Posted 19 December 2016 - 07:22 PM

Your link Windows Defender in Windows 7/Vista throws a block from MBAM ( checked 3 times ) !!

It's just a link to wikipedia. MBAM 3.0's malicious web site protection should not be blocking it.
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Posted 19 December 2016 - 07:25 PM

In the past when a legitimate web site was falsely detected and blocked by Malicious Website Blocking, the Malwarebytes Team advised that you report it at the Website Blocking False Positives Forum so the Research Team can investigate.
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Posted 19 December 2016 - 08:00 PM

@ quietman7

 

Thanks for your attempts, but post #3 is still the problem........ You have "Explained" but not "Fixed" what I need....

 

Anybody else have a decent solution, or should I waste my time and go direct to M/soft ??

 

All of the above have been read and attempted,

 

Thank you very much.



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Posted 20 December 2016 - 04:29 AM

How to Update Windows Defender Offline? Install Latest Virus ... - AskVG

 

This site solved my problems by installing current updates Off Line ..

 

Then I was able to scan with installed updates, I was not able to even scan earlier..

 

EDIT - I had uninstalled and used the MBAM Clean, so now I will reinstall it.


Edited by Jaycan, 20 December 2016 - 04:32 AM.


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 04:41 AM

Now that is Good news. Well done !!   ,...      :thumbup2:


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 07:04 AM

The ability to update manually has been available for a long time.Too bad Microsoft does not provide this suggestion as a solution for this issue.
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