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#1 cvgurau

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Posted 26 August 2006 - 05:38 AM

How does the McAfee Security Center rate for virus detection/deletion, ad/spyware, et al?


I keep hearing opposing opinions. My brother says that it's not fit to line birdcages with, but others say it's a gift from on high.

Is it good enough? Is there something better?

What should I be using?

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Posted 26 August 2006 - 05:49 AM

Not bad, sometimes some comps seem to have a problem with it, as do other comps with Panda. I don't like Norton because it slows the comp down but before you buy anything try AVG for free because it is light and free and automatically updates itself. link below:

http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/index.php?a...ails&f_id=4

Sure you know but don't run two Antiviruses at the same time.

Edited by fleamailman, 26 August 2006 - 05:52 AM.

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Posted 26 August 2006 - 07:49 AM

McAfee and Norton both are problematic. They have tried to become all things to all people. There isn't anything either one of them do better than other software products out there, some for free. Often these products becomes corrupt. Often these products are difficult to uninstall. They are large products, leaving a large footprint on your computer and eating up computer resources.

Do you have Service Pack 2 installed on your computer? To check go to:

Start > right click on My Computer > Properties

If you don't, then install it. If you do then you already have a popup blocker and a firewall. AVG has an excellent antivirus that is offered for FREE for home users. If it is parental controls you want, let us know what you are trying to prevent your kids from doing as there may be other ways to stop them from doing it, such as changing thier user accounts to limited accounts, or by installing other, less problematic software.

That is my opinion.
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Posted 26 August 2006 - 08:15 AM

MacAfee is a well respected company and makes a very good product. It is used by both consumer, and corporate users. I personal have stopped using it because it is heavy on resources, as is Norton by Symantec. My computers are older and need every edge they can get.
With that said there are many excellent choices that are at least equal to if not better. Bleeping Computer has complied a list of excellent freeware alternatives to the paid software. Many of the freeware version have paid version, with more features.
I personal have used many stand alone security products, both freeware, paid, and subscription (renew annually). I now use several freeware alternative and have been malware clean for 3 years.

AVG 7.1 free
MicroSoft Defender Beta
Spybot S&D Freeware
Spyware Guard free
Spyware Blaster free
cCleaner free
Ad-Aware free
aČ free
Ewido free
SyGate 5.6 Personal FireWall Free

I have found that AVG 6 Defender, Spybot, and SyGate use 130Mb less memory on my computer than MacAfee and 80 Mb less than Norton. I did this test for 6 months starting in March 2004 till November 2004, with Demo-ware obtained from new computer, using the free trail of the full subscription version. I had three computers setup identical. Dell GX1 P-III 500Mhz 512Mb of RAM and Windows 2000 Pro installed on a 20GB Maxtor HDs. All had onboard video, ethernet, and a CDrom, CDRW, and a USB 2.0 PCI card installed. I also made every effort to use all three equally. I stopped at 6 month because I could no longer use the Norton machine do to BSOD. The MacAfee machine was slower but still stable. i found the AVG computer in the best condition.
I am not an expert and make no claims to how it will work with you computer. I am just sharing what I have learned in day to day use of my computers.
Here is a complete list of freeware recommended by BC members.

Freeware Replacements For Common Commercial Apps


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Posted 26 August 2006 - 08:20 AM

I reccomend NOD32.Great detection rate, not too big, and it has lots of security tools such as IMON and AMON.

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Posted 26 August 2006 - 04:15 PM

I already have McAfee; I just wanted to know if it was any good. Our computer came with an 18-month trial, so I've a ways to go before having to decide whether to renew or not.

It's just that my computer is glitchy, at times (rebooting last night, the screen blanked, and was soon covered first by small, white lines, then triangle formations of yellow dots, if memory serves), and i was wondering if McAfee is letting viruses through the cracks.

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Posted 27 August 2006 - 01:49 AM

I have had bad experiences with both McAfee and Norton. If you installed McAfee by downloading it from the MSN site, it has the possibility of installing incorrectly. If you have problems, uninstall and reinstall. There were viruses that specifically targeted the Virus definition files for both Norton and McAfee. The vulnerabilities have most likely been fixed by now, but there is still a bad taste in my mouth from it. Personally, I prefer TrendMicro, mainly because it is global and not US based. TrendMicro has found and removed viruses that the others have missed. I also find their free real-time online scans to be very good. As others have mentioned, there are many free anti-virus and anti-spyware programs out there (SpyBot, AVG and AdAware are a few) that are just as good as the purchased versions.

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Posted 27 August 2006 - 02:54 AM

One point that has not been touched here, is that both the product and the malware changes year by year so if we conclude that X or Y product is good or bad it stands for "at the moment only", an examples being Panda 2005, which I thought was great, and then Panda 2006 which on dare not comment on, and again various AV being thought great until rootkit or trojan type malware arrived, - all leading me to conclude that one must have an AV but at the same time be fully backed up and able to clean reinstall the OS, reloading programs etc.,(in the case that some new super malware comes out), remember that even with all these AVs and firewals the malware forums are full of victims willing to wait for ever longer durations, something commendable agreed but not a route I imagine you would wish to follow if a simple back system were at hand and within your power to create.

Edited by fleamailman, 27 August 2006 - 02:55 AM.

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Posted 27 August 2006 - 06:22 AM

The fact is that any computer can become infected at any time despite any protection being used. There are mainly two reasons for this:

1) New forms of malicious software that have yet to be identified
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2) Behavior of the user

No one antivirus software package is going to catch everything. When a new virus is created and released it may be a couple of weeks or so before antivirus software writers can create a solution to that particular threat and then release it as an update. In that period of time millions of computers can become infected despite having antivirus software installed.

And just because the update is available does not mean that the user will update his software.

Also it is important to add that a lot of people purchase antivirus software after already experiencing problems with their computers, I mean that is what motivates them to make the purchase in the first place. Well, then it is too late. It is possible that the antivirus software will not install properly. It may come under attack by the existing infection. And perhaps the user does not even know that his antivirus software is not working properly, clearing the way for other infections.

No amount of firewalls or other security software can stop a user from downloading an infected file. Happens everyday.

Or how about the user that thinks it is ok to join a file sharing network? 'Borrows' music from his friends computer? Or visits porn sites? Or tries to get cracks to software? Or downloads pretty much anything that is free on the internet? These are behaviors on the part of the user that will get him/her infected despite having antivirus.

All that being said, why use a large resourse hog of an antivirus such as McAfee or Norton when there are smaller alternatives that do the same thing, some from free?

And we haven't even touched on the fact that not all malicious software is considered a virus. The term VIRUS refers mainly to the way that particular infection is spread. But what about adware, spyware, foistware, greyware, etc, etc, etc? Antivirus software isn't going to touch these.

Edited by Albert Frankenstein, 27 August 2006 - 06:25 AM.

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Posted 29 August 2006 - 08:20 PM

IMO McAfee does well with virus detection. Where it falls short is in it's problems and resource consumption. Also IMO, Norton is worse than McAfee - less able to detect viruses and more resource hungry (but less technical problems)

I use AVG - the free version at home and the Pro version at the office.

Other good products are Kapersky, NOD32, Bit Defender.

It might be the McAfee causing the problems - and it might not. Check your Event Viewer for error messages.
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