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#1 donisonleague

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Posted 11 November 2016 - 07:46 PM

Hi all!

Thank you for your attention!

I'm going to build a new PC in the next days and i've sorted out the most of the picks but since it's just my second build, i'm in the needing of some suggestions.

Already bought are underlined.

 

CPU: I7 4790K

 

Motherboard: MSI Z97

 

RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory

 

Storage: Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive + Sandisk Ultra II 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

 

GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Windforce OC Video Card

- i was actually going for a GTX 970 4GB from ASUS, but it seems like 1060 is less expensive these days, and it should be better, shouldn't it? -

 

Case: Thermaltake Versa H21 ATX Mid Tower Case

 

PSU: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply

 

Optical Drive

 

OS: Windows 10

 

Now... FANS

Here i'm totally clueless, since it's the first time i have to buy them. The case already comes with a fan, but that's far from enough. What should i go for?

How many and which? What size?

 

Thank you really much for your help, and good luck with the lawsuit, i'll give some help for what i can.


Edited by donisonleague, 11 November 2016 - 07:52 PM.


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Posted 12 November 2016 - 10:52 AM

According to the specs on newegg

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133247

 

It takes 120mm fans : Front (intake) :(optional)

120 x 120 x 25 mm x 2
Rear (exhaust) :
120 x 120 x 25 mm Turbo fan 
(1000rpm, 16dBA)



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Posted 12 November 2016 - 04:27 PM

Hi all!

Thank you for your attention!

I'm going to build a new PC in the next days and i've sorted out the most of the picks but since it's just my second build, i'm in the needing of some suggestions.

Already bought are underlined.

 

CPU: I7 4790K

 

Motherboard: MSI Z97

 

RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory

 

LGA1150 is basically EOL since LGA1151 replaced it. I see no sense on those parts unless you are getting very heavy discount.



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Posted 12 November 2016 - 04:40 PM

According to the specs on newegg

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133247

 

It takes 120mm fans : Front (intake) :(optional)

120 x 120 x 25 mm x 2
Rear (exhaust) :
120 x 120 x 25 mm Turbo fan 
(1000rpm, 16dBA)

Thank you for your reply!

So, i should buy 2 120mm fans for the front right?
Should i change also the one on the rear with a brand new one? (which comes with the case)

How are these ones? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qCH323/arctic-cooling-case-fan-afaco12000gba01

 

 

 

Hi all!

Thank you for your attention!

I'm going to build a new PC in the next days and i've sorted out the most of the picks but since it's just my second build, i'm in the needing of some suggestions.

Already bought are underlined.

 

CPU: I7 4790K

 

Motherboard: MSI Z97

 

RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory

 

LGA1150 is basically EOL since LGA1151 replaced it. I see no sense on those parts unless you are getting very heavy discount.

 

I understand your point, but the main reason which i'm looking forward for an LGA1150 mobo is the I7 4790K.

I've yet to find a good competitor to this one in terms of performance (i've examined the 6700k but it fall far behind... the 5820k is slightly better than the 6700k but it's on LGA2011..), and i could get it for about 350$.

However i'm open to suggestions here too if you've something good for me.



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Posted 12 November 2016 - 04:42 PM

Also, what about the GTX 1060 vs GTX 970? For what i can understand, the first is better in every aspect, but i may be missing out something, since it costs 110$ less than the 970 these days...



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Posted 12 November 2016 - 04:50 PM

I understand your point, but the main reason which i'm looking forward for an LGA1150 mobo is the I7 4790K. I've yet to find a good competitor to this one in terms of performance (i've examined the 6700k but it fall far behind... the 5820k is slightly better than the 6700k but it's on LGA2011..), and i could get it for about 350$.
However i'm open to suggestions here too if you've something good for me.


6700K is generally faster than i7-4790K. Even when it's slower, difference is negligible. It's much better choice because it has newer socket. Cannot imagine where you got impression that 6700K is much slower. I recommend LGA2011-3 Platform however. i7-5820K or i7-6800K depending on price.

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Posted 12 November 2016 - 05:01 PM

Also, what about the GTX 1060 vs GTX 970? For what i can understand, the first is better in every aspect, but i may be missing out something, since it costs 110$ less than the 970 these days...


GTX1060 is better than GTX970. Older cars often have high prices until they disappear from shops.

However since GTX1060 is using quite old architecture, I recommend something newer like AMD RX470 or RX480.

Edited by Drillingmachine, 12 November 2016 - 05:01 PM.


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Posted 12 November 2016 - 05:14 PM

 

I understand your point, but the main reason which i'm looking forward for an LGA1150 mobo is the I7 4790K. I've yet to find a good competitor to this one in terms of performance (i've examined the 6700k but it fall far behind... the 5820k is slightly better than the 6700k but it's on LGA2011..), and i could get it for about 350$.
However i'm open to suggestions here too if you've something good for me.


6700K is generally faster than i7-4790K. Even when it's slower, difference is negligible. It's much better choice because it has newer socket. Cannot imagine where you got impression that 6700K is much slower. I recommend LGA2011-3 Platform however. i7-5820K or i7-6800K depending on price.

 

Then i was definetively looking to a site which had some wrong specs and benchmarks.

 

Ok, to go forward i'll try to explain my target and my limits: a 6800K is out of my pocket and also of my target i would say, since i'm not into ultra HD gaming, my target is basically to be able to play at every game i actually play (which i'm capable of even with the GTX750TI i currently have) + some satisfaction out of having a good build which is at the same time compatible with my pocket.

 

I've seen i could get the 6700K for the same exact price of the 4790K.

Let's hypotetically say i go for the 6700K 

 

So then i would change the mobo to a LGA1151 one.

My available picks are the Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 DDR3 and the Gigabyte GA-H170-HD3 DDR3.

The Z one should be the better one at the same price.

I'm excluding some asus mobo for the same price because i won't bother taking anything from asus because of my past experiences, and some other gigabyte mobo which has double the price.

Are they better than the Z97 i was thinking to buy? The price is about the same

 

Then what about the RAM? Should i still go for the DDR3L or may have anyway sense to buy the DDR4, also if they would cost me 120$ more?

 

P.S.: thank you for your help, also with the GPU, i just read your post about it


Edited by donisonleague, 12 November 2016 - 05:15 PM.


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Posted 12 November 2016 - 05:15 PM

 

According to the specs on newegg

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133247

 

It takes 120mm fans : Front (intake) :(optional)

120 x 120 x 25 mm x 2
Rear (exhaust) :
120 x 120 x 25 mm Turbo fan 
(1000rpm, 16dBA)

Thank you for your reply!

So, i should buy 2 120mm fans for the front right?
Should i change also the one on the rear with a brand new one? (which comes with the case)

How are these ones? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qCH323/arctic-cooling-case-fan-afaco12000gba01

 

 

According this YouTube video on your case

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnm_B3ZALKg 

 

You can install > For the top : 2x 120mm or 1x 140mm Fans or a radiator.

For the rear : 1x120mm Fan, and For the front 2x 120mm Fans.



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Posted 12 November 2016 - 05:24 PM

 

 

According to the specs on newegg

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133247

 

It takes 120mm fans : Front (intake) :(optional)

120 x 120 x 25 mm x 2
Rear (exhaust) :
120 x 120 x 25 mm Turbo fan 
(1000rpm, 16dBA)

Thank you for your reply!

So, i should buy 2 120mm fans for the front right?
Should i change also the one on the rear with a brand new one? (which comes with the case)

How are these ones? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qCH323/arctic-cooling-case-fan-afaco12000gba01

 

 

According this YouTube video on your case

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnm_B3ZALKg

 

You can install > For the top : 2x 120mm or 1x 140mm Fans or a radiator.

For the rear : 1x120mm Fan, and For the front 2x 120mm Fans.

 

 

Thank you very much for pointing me to this tutorial, it will be very helpful!

I was just starting to wonder how could i set the fans on the top, but then i read on the video an update from the author who said he made a mistake and the top cannot be used for fans ^^

But thank you, now i've a better understanding of my own case, especially about fans :)



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Posted 12 November 2016 - 05:25 PM

 

 

I understand your point, but the main reason which i'm looking forward for an LGA1150 mobo is the I7 4790K. I've yet to find a good competitor to this one in terms of performance (i've examined the 6700k but it fall far behind... the 5820k is slightly better than the 6700k but it's on LGA2011..), and i could get it for about 350$.
However i'm open to suggestions here too if you've something good for me.


6700K is generally faster than i7-4790K. Even when it's slower, difference is negligible. It's much better choice because it has newer socket. Cannot imagine where you got impression that 6700K is much slower. I recommend LGA2011-3 Platform however. i7-5820K or i7-6800K depending on price.

 

Then i was definetively looking to a site which had some wrong specs and benchmarks.

 

Ok, to go forward i'll try to explain my target and my limits: a 6800K is out of my pocket and also of my target i would say, since i'm not into ultra HD gaming, my target is basically to be able to play at every game i actually play (which i'm capable of even with the GTX750TI i currently have) + some satisfaction out of having a good build which is at the same time compatible with my pocket.

 

I've seen i could get the 6700K for the same exact price of the 4790K.

Let's hypotetically say i go for the 6700K 

 

So then i would change the mobo to a LGA1151 one.

My available picks are the Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 DDR3 and the Gigabyte GA-H170-HD3 DDR3.

The Z one should be the better one at the same price.

I'm excluding some asus mobo for the same price because i won't bother taking anything from asus because of my past experiences, and some other gigabyte mobo which has double the price.

Are they better than the Z97 i was thinking to buy? The price is about the same

 

Then what about the RAM? Should i still go for the DDR3L or may have anyway sense to buy the DDR4, also if they would cost me 120$ more?

 

P.S.: thank you for your help, also with the GPU, i just read your post about it

 

The Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 is DDR4 motherboard not a DDR3, so you can't use DDR3 memory.

This motherboard is Over-clockable, whereas, the Gigabyte GA-H170-HD3, is not,

 

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Posted 12 November 2016 - 05:31 PM

 

 

 

I understand your point, but the main reason which i'm looking forward for an LGA1150 mobo is the I7 4790K. I've yet to find a good competitor to this one in terms of performance (i've examined the 6700k but it fall far behind... the 5820k is slightly better than the 6700k but it's on LGA2011..), and i could get it for about 350$.
However i'm open to suggestions here too if you've something good for me.


6700K is generally faster than i7-4790K. Even when it's slower, difference is negligible. It's much better choice because it has newer socket. Cannot imagine where you got impression that 6700K is much slower. I recommend LGA2011-3 Platform however. i7-5820K or i7-6800K depending on price.

 

Then i was definetively looking to a site which had some wrong specs and benchmarks.

 

Ok, to go forward i'll try to explain my target and my limits: a 6800K is out of my pocket and also of my target i would say, since i'm not into ultra HD gaming, my target is basically to be able to play at every game i actually play (which i'm capable of even with the GTX750TI i currently have) + some satisfaction out of having a good build which is at the same time compatible with my pocket.

 

I've seen i could get the 6700K for the same exact price of the 4790K.

Let's hypotetically say i go for the 6700K 

 

So then i would change the mobo to a LGA1151 one.

My available picks are the Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 DDR3 and the Gigabyte GA-H170-HD3 DDR3.

The Z one should be the better one at the same price.

I'm excluding some asus mobo for the same price because i won't bother taking anything from asus because of my past experiences, and some other gigabyte mobo which has double the price.

Are they better than the Z97 i was thinking to buy? The price is about the same

 

Then what about the RAM? Should i still go for the DDR3L or may have anyway sense to buy the DDR4, also if they would cost me 120$ more?

 

P.S.: thank you for your help, also with the GPU, i just read your post about it

 

The Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 is DDR4 motherboard not a DDR3, so you can't use DDR3 memory.

This motherboard is Over-clockable, whereas, the Gigabyte GA-H170-HD3, is not,

 

 

 

Yeah i'm sorry, i meant that i can pick either the GA-Z170-HD3 DDR3 or the standard (DDR4) GA-Z170-HD3. The same for the H170.

Basically i've three options at the moment:

 

1) I7 6700K + GA-Z170 (Standard) + 32GB of DDR4

2) I7 6700K + GA-Z170 (DDR3) + 32GB of DDR3L

3) I7 4790K + Z97 + 32GB of DDR3L

The first option is 120-150$ more expensive, while 2° and 3° cost the same (25$ difference).



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Posted 12 November 2016 - 05:32 PM

However since GTX1060 is using quite old architecture, I recommend something newer like AMD RX470 or RX480. 

 

 

Completely untrue. The GTX 1060 is using as new an architecture as the polaris GPUs. The RX series card are more budged oriented than the 1060, and perform as such.

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Posted 12 November 2016 - 05:56 PM

I've actually noticed that the GA-Z170 i could buy, will come with a free W10 OS disk, which basically makes up all the price of the mobo, sparing me the burden to have to use another W10 installation disk and license.

So, basically the only question left is: DDR3L vs DDR4. Is the difference worth 120-150$?



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Posted 12 November 2016 - 06:02 PM

Hi all!

Thank you for your attention!

I'm going to build a new PC in the next days and i've sorted out the most of the picks but since it's just my second build, i'm in the needing of some suggestions.

Already bought are underlined.

 

CPU: I7 4790K

 

Motherboard: MSI Z97

 

RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory

 

Storage: Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive + Sandisk Ultra II 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

 

GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Windforce OC Video Card

- i was actually going for a GTX 970 4GB from ASUS, but it seems like 1060 is less expensive these days, and it should be better, shouldn't it? -

 

Case: Thermaltake Versa H21 ATX Mid Tower Case

 

PSU: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply

 

Optical Drive

 

 

 

Optical Drive, I would suggest a Blu-Ray Burner, that can read / write Blu-Ray and all formats of

CD & DVD. Whether listening to external music or watching Blu-Ray movies.

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/LG-WH14NS40-Blu-ray-Writer-Optical/dp/B00XUZXUPO/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1478991118&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=New%2BLG%2BWH14NS40%2B14x%2BInternal%2BBlu%2BRay%2BBD-R%2FDVD%2FCD%2BBurner%2BWriter%2BDrive%2B%2B%2B10pk%2BBD-R&th=1






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