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IE8 Won't Display Microsoft HTTPS sites


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#1 Dinosauroz

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Posted 06 November 2016 - 07:21 AM

I have had to do a clean install of XP and IE8 on two older laptops.  Tried to connect to Microsoft Downloads to reinstall updates etc but without success ("

Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage")

I was concerned that Automatic Updates would not work as it relies on IE (not that they are offering support anymore...).  I have tried EVERYTHING I can find online and am starting to wonder if it is a new Microsoft policy to kill older software?  If I follow the "Diagnose problems wizard"" it tells me it cannot get an http, https or FTP connection.  Here are some interesting symptoms:

 

IE8 won't display the microsoft https sites - but Chrome on the same computer will do so (so not wifi, router etc?  Not computer per se?  must be an issue unique to IE8?)

Same symptoms on both computers

If I manually change the https to http in the address bar it works on IE8 (issue with security? With IE8?)

 

I've tried SSL cache, internet history, hosts file replacement, clean boot reload, winsock, compatibility view, browser history, add-ons, reset settings, default security settings, date and time, sfc, re-registered dll, trusted sites, restricted sites, SSL 2.0 and 3.0, and probably lots of other things....aaaargggghhh.

 

I'm kinda expecting someone to say "oh, sorry, didn't anyone tell you...microsoft disabled https access for ancient IE8 in April 2014...no fix"  but at this point it would just be a relief to know why it doesn't work, and that I am not totally crazy!!

 

Any offers of help, ideas, pure genius, all gratefully accepted...



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Posted 06 November 2016 - 09:02 AM

IE 8 on XP...cannot access many websites now...including Microsoft sites.  This has been ongoing for some time now.  I switched to using Firefox as the default browser months ago.

 

Windows Update may appear to be accesssible using IE 8..but it will not reflect any downloads if you are using IE 8 (my experience).

 

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Edited by hamluis, 06 November 2016 - 09:10 AM.


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Posted 07 November 2016 - 04:34 AM

Thanks Louis,

 

Is the fact that it works if I delete the "s" in "https" in the address bar interesting, or does it just work because this switches off security measures and so make browsing easier (and less secure)?

 

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Posted 07 November 2016 - 05:32 AM

As I xaid...I cannot connect at all to any MS (and other) websites using IE 8 with XP.  It's been that way for months.  IMO, there is no reason to continue to use IE 8 with XP, due to it's limited use on the Internet...and the fact that the the sole reason for its previous use during the last 2 years...has been for installation/retrieval of critical updates, IMO.  Since the entire update scenario has been changed...and the only XP critical updates were the Malicious Software Tool (which is downloadable) from any browser...IE 8 is more of a nuisance than a necessity today.
 
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Posted 07 November 2016 - 09:05 AM

In order to download updates on a clean install of XP with IE8 you need to download the latest Update Agent for XP. XP needs to be at SP3 before you can download it. The below link is for 32bit.

 

http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=100334

 

 

Note: This is just a tip but you still need XP at SP3. Download 360 Total Security, not Essentials. After install click on Tools, Patch Up in an admin account. It will only be a matter of minutes before 360 lists all security updates applicable to your computer since SP3. If you prefer not to use 360 Total Security you can uninstall it after installing the security updates. In any case I would not use the SpeedUP feature in Tools. I used it on a clean install of XP SP3 and the search/install of all updates since SP3 went very fast.

 

You can still download XP SP3 here



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Posted 08 November 2016 - 07:12 AM

Definitely there is a movement towards these older OSs being shut down and MS will continue to make it more difficult simply because the .NET frameworks will increase in version number and stop being supported by the older browsers. This is both part of the modern day product lifecycle as well as development of software increasing in efficiency by using a more and more modular approach. 

 

I would definitely look into a new or refurbished Windows 7 or 10 PC if you wish to keep using IE as you will be benefiting from 64-bit computing and faster multi-core processing support.



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Posted 08 November 2016 - 10:18 AM

Firefox and Google Chrome no longer support XP.  The only browser that I'm aware of that still supports is Opera.


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Posted 08 November 2016 - 12:01 PM

Firefox and Google Chrome no longer support XP.  The only browser that I'm aware of that still supports is Opera.

After Firefox 48 there is no longer any support for CPU's that do not have the SSE2 extension. Firefox will no longer support XP after version 52. Supposedly the ESR version of Firefox will continue to support XP but for how long is not known.

 

http://www.ghacks.net/2016/09/27/firefox-53-no-support-for-windows-xp-or-vista/



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Posted 09 November 2016 - 05:40 AM

Thank you gentlemen for your time and your wisdom (LemOnde, I am assuming you are the one in the middle surrounded by the gorgeous hardware, but apologies if you are actually one of the LamOnde's!).

 

Louis - I hadn't realised that the update process has been changed - from your post it sounds as if IE is no longer required for updates? (the only reason I was really trying to get it to work...).

 

JohnC_21 thanks for your links - as soon as I save my tracks I will try them and see what they find.

 

I had succeeded in getting SP3 and updates installed - despite the "for Windows 10" sub-text the chrome download page is smart enough to only download v49 to XP users, so this is working as expected, and with internet access the reconstruction appears to be progressing well (I had some Files and Settings wizard and file backups to help, and plan to create a drive image as soon as I am done). But (sigh) I guess it's time to leap-frog the last three operating systems (which mostly seem to have been crap, so I feel somewhat vindicated!) and get off my butt and learn the whims of the current one.  

 

Meanwhile I've managed to recharge my french mobile phone, which makes all other technological and human challenges seem like child's play.  Microsoft can drive you crazy, but French systems will drive you insane!!

 

Thanks again guys (&/or gals!),

 

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