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#1 Viper_Security

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Posted 12 October 2016 - 02:58 PM

I bought a new battery for my Dell XPS M1530 to use until i can get a new laptop, and the battery worked fine for a while, but then i had to re-install linux (mint 18) and last night it was at "56%" the whole night, so i thought i'd drain it thinking it may have gotten confused.

 

So the laptop died, and when i plugged the charger in, all looked normal. until i turned it on, in BIOS it says the battery is "Idle" and the power management applet says it's "charging 0%" for the last two hours now.

 

I've used 2 Multi-meters(to be sure)to check my charger and it's up to par, putting out the correct voltages.

 

I'm not sure why it's acting this way. i have already trained the battery, and it worked for about 2 weeks. 

 

Ever since i had to re-install I've been having browser, wifi, and battery issues. (im using the exact same hardware as before, NOTHING changed)

 

Here is some info that may help.

 

 

vip3r@vip3r-M1530 ~ $ upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0
  native-path:          BAT0
  vendor:               SMP
  model:                DELL NX5117
  serial:               2158
  power supply:         yes
  updated:              Wed 12 Oct 2016 12:54:22 PM PDT (117 seconds ago)
  has history:          yes
  has statistics:       yes
  battery
    present:             yes
    rechargeable:        yes
    state:               charging
    warning-level:       none
    energy:              0 Wh
    energy-empty:        0 Wh
    energy-full:         48.8289 Wh
    energy-full-design:  48.84 Wh
    energy-rate:         0 W
    voltage:             10.476 V
    percentage:          0%
    capacity:            99.9773%
    technology:          lithium-ion
    icon-name:          'battery-caution-charging-symbolic'      <-- Worries me as well, (battery is Barely 2 weeks old)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
And 
grep -E "state|to\ full|percentage"
 
Doesn't do anything the "cursor" just flashes as if it's thinking but nothing has been displayed for 20 minutes. 
 
The put put of:
 
vip3r@vip3r-M1530 ~ $ acpi -b
Battery 0: Unknown, 0%
 
is what worries me. Especially the "Unknown"
 
 
Did my battery somehow get hosed?

Edited by Viper_Security, 12 October 2016 - 03:21 PM.

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Posted 12 October 2016 - 03:51 PM

There are three possibilities:
1. The battery pack is dead (buy new)
2. The charger is faulty (usually can not be repaired)
3. The computer has become incorrect setting (restore factory settings)
 
These batteries (NiMH rechargeable battary), which are used at present, is not no way to train!


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Posted 12 October 2016 - 03:57 PM

Suspecting the first.

 

charger works fine.

I've already re-installed linux. 

The battery is not NiMH, nor NiCad, the battery is Li-Ion.

 

and again. i said i had bought this battery 2 weeks ago. it should NOT be dead.


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Posted 12 October 2016 - 04:04 PM

The battery is not NiMH, nor NiCad, the battery is Li-Ion.

Li-Ion also the same, no way to train.  If dead, then is dead. But I should recommend to try in some other computer or/and with another charger.

The charging problem has recently been on some Asus computers, on other computers have not heard.


Edited by kaljukass, 12 October 2016 - 04:07 PM.


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Posted 12 October 2016 - 04:10 PM

I've "trained" Li-Ion batteries before. so I'm not sure what you mean. 

 

 

also the battery is not "dead" when i unplug the charger, it stays on for about 5 seconds then shuts off, so it has some juice. and one more time,

 

this battery is 2 WEEKS old.  so there is absolutely no reason it should be dead. 


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Posted 12 October 2016 - 04:23 PM

I've "trained" Li-Ion batteries before. so I'm not sure what you mean. 

If you know how this accu works, you do not talk any more such stories.

But you can train on... if You believe in it.


Edited by kaljukass, 12 October 2016 - 04:27 PM.


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Posted 12 October 2016 - 05:01 PM

 

I've "trained" Li-Ion batteries before. so I'm not sure what you mean. 

If you know how this accu works, you do not talk any more such stories.

But you can train on... if You believe in it.

 

this is not helping.  whatsoever


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Posted 12 October 2016 - 06:54 PM

The battery may not be dead,  but there could be something wrong with the charging circuits in the laptop.



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Posted 12 October 2016 - 07:00 PM

The battery may not be dead,  but there could be something wrong with the charging circuits in the laptop.

oh duh! why didn't i think of that!

 

ill take it apart and test everything i can.

 

and if not, could it possibly be in the battery?


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Posted 12 October 2016 - 07:07 PM

It could be, I have had a new battery die after 2 recharges, admittedly it was not a genuine replacement part, I got it on ebay because it was $40 cheaper.



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Posted 12 October 2016 - 07:10 PM

It could be, I have had a new battery die after 2 recharges, admittedly it was not a genuine replacement part, I got it on ebay because it was $40 cheaper.

The battery i bought wasn't OEM either, (who can pay $40 for a battery....) so i went with the $15 one, i guess i got what i paid for. 

might just have to bite the bullet and buy the OEM battery.


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Posted 12 October 2016 - 07:19 PM

The charging circuits in the laptop should be easy to test without taking anything apart, Turn the laptop off and leave it off, remove the battery, plug in the power supply and test the pins that make contact with the battery in the bay, also make sure the pins are not dirty or corroded.



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Posted 21 October 2016 - 04:10 PM

@ NickAu i took my lappy apart to check the solder joints, they are good, and I'm uploading 2 videos.

 

Testing the output.

 

 

 This is the second battery from the person i bought from. (too replace the first one i had purchased.)

 

 

 

From Terminal. The battery is supposed to be 11.1V

 

 

vip3r@vip3r-M1530 ~ $ upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0
  native-path:          BAT0
  vendor:               SMP
  model:                DELL NX5117
  serial:               1234
  power supply:         yes
  updated:              Fri 21 Oct 2016 02:13:57 PM PDT (67 seconds ago)
  has history:          yes
  has statistics:       yes
  battery
    present:             yes
    rechargeable:        yes
    state:               charging
    warning-level:       none
    energy:              0 Wh
    energy-empty:        0 Wh
    energy-full:         48.6957 Wh
    energy-full-design:  48.84 Wh
    energy-rate:         0 W
    voltage:             7.867 V
    percentage:          0%
    capacity:            99.7045%
    technology:          lithium-ion
    icon-name:          'battery-caution-charging-symbolic'

Edited by Viper_Security, 21 October 2016 - 04:17 PM.

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Posted 27 October 2016 - 01:05 PM

since no one is responding anymore i kindly ask a mod to delete this post.

 

 

 

 

Also dell just lost customer. 

 

http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/accessories/apd/312-0660?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=312-0660

 

 

 

 

$130 BLEEPING DOLLARS FOR A BATTERY!


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Posted 28 October 2016 - 11:31 AM

BC does not generally delete topics, especially those which contain comments from other members which may be of some benefit to others believing that they have encountered the same or similar circumstances such as you indicate.

 

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