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Windows 7 And Cumulative Updates


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#1 sikntired

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Posted 23 September 2016 - 09:41 AM

Well October is on the horizon and we are about to have cumulative updates from 'patch Tuesday' forced upon us. (unless you choose otherwise).

I for one am not very happy that MS has chosen to force users to either download all or none as described in this article:

 

http://www.computerworld.com/article/3123113/windows-pcs/impending-cumulative-updates-unnerve-windows-patch-experts.html?ref=yfp

 

So there will be no choices to download or not if you want security updates for your system.



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Posted 23 September 2016 - 11:14 AM

You will be able to download  Security Only rollups for Windows 7 using the Microsoft Update Catalog.



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Posted 23 September 2016 - 11:48 AM

You will be able to download  Security Only rollups for Windows 7 using the Microsoft Update Catalog.

 

Never had to do that before !! How involved is that? You have to go through all the updates and decide which ones apply to your system? I don't like these rollups because there is no transparency as to what you are downloading. Correct me if I am wrong.

 

Just another reason for utilizing Linux more and more.



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Posted 23 September 2016 - 11:52 AM

I am not sure how it will work as I have never done it before either but from what I read it's my understanding that each month will have a security rollup package. All Security Updates will be in one downloadable file. I am not sure if it will cumulative or each month will have it's own rollup. 

 

http://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-shifting-monthly-patch-update-model-windows-7-and-81

 

Lastly, Microsoft says that it will also push a monthly "Security-only" update that will only contain security patches for that month. This will be released separately from Windows Update via WSUS, SCCM, and the Microsoft Update Catalog.

 


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Posted 23 September 2016 - 12:03 PM

Microsoft is rationalizing this as a means of making sure that everyone has the "needed" updates.  Microsoft implies that by being selective about which updates you install leads to potential problems caused by "fragmenting" the updates.

 

One of the downsides I see in this is that when Microsoft releases a update that breaks your computer you have no way of knowing which update has caused this and will not have the option to uninstall the specific update.

 

One of my concerns is that Microsoft will now determine what "suggested" updates you should have along with the important updates.


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Posted 23 September 2016 - 12:08 PM

One of my concerns is that Microsoft will now determine what "suggested" updates you should have along with the important updates.

Including all those Windows 7 telemetry updates.



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Posted 23 September 2016 - 12:23 PM

I don't even want to get started on that topic.  I got rid of everything related to Google for the same reason, big brother is watching!  A little over dramatic, but you get the point.


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Posted 23 September 2016 - 05:05 PM

Microsoft is rationalizing this as a means of making sure that everyone has the "needed" updates.  Microsoft implies that by being selective about which updates you install leads to potential problems caused by "fragmenting" the updates.

 

One of the downsides I see in this is that when Microsoft releases a update that breaks your computer you have no way of knowing which update has caused this and will not have the option to uninstall the specific update.

 

One of my concerns is that Microsoft will now determine what "suggested" updates you should have along with the important updates.

Well, I certainly echo those concerns as well. Just have to wait and see.



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Posted 24 September 2016 - 02:31 AM

- It's possible to get the Security Updates without the "Optional" updates. But those "Security Only" updates won't be offered through the regular "Windows Update" feature. One has to go out and make an effort to find those "Security Updates".

 

Source:

https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/windowsitpro/2016/08/15/further-simplifying-servicing-model-for-windows-7-and-windows-8-1/






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