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#1 JimmyKarter

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Posted 21 September 2016 - 01:41 PM

Most CPU's, even for gaming go up to a few hundred USD.
 
But why are these types, or this one so expensive?

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Posted 21 September 2016 - 04:07 PM

I'd be willing to bet thats a website typo. Especially since Dell has a price match button there too. As well as Intel's suggested retail price is $4394.00.

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Posted 21 September 2016 - 04:24 PM

I think the one you listed is a two pack? Because this one sells for $6,499.99.


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Posted 21 September 2016 - 05:16 PM

Sheeeeeze, I would have sweaty armpits mounting that much green on my mainboard.  Attached File  ieek.gif   1KB   1 downloads


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Posted 21 September 2016 - 05:36 PM

bwv848 has it right. The leading 2X in the product nomenclature proves that theory. As bwv848's link omits the 2X in the nomenclature.

However thats still nearly twice the price for a single unit of Intel's suggested retail price.

But you can find them cheaper if you look.

The $3K range for a single one here: http://memory4less.com/search?cat=&q=E5-4657L+2.40+GHz

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Posted 22 September 2016 - 08:07 PM

Wait.... err so could you guys explain why this is indeed expensive?


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Posted 22 September 2016 - 08:43 PM

You are comparing server processors and gaming processors. :) The E5-4657L processor is meant for expensive servers like this.

Furthermore, compare an Intel E5-4657's specs to an Intel Core i7-6700K specs. 12 cores vs. 4 cores. 24 threads vs. 8 threads. 30 MB cache vs. 8 MB cache.

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Posted 23 September 2016 - 04:37 AM

I'd say take a look on eBay, there one can find decent CPU's at great prices. I've purchased many & never a DOA received. 

 

Just one thing to keep in mind....... check seller Feedback! :)

 

While you may not get that exact set, should find one to fit your MB at a reasonable price. Still, Feedback is everything in the eBay world, while I'll look over those in regards to slow shipping (for free, does anyone expect overnight or 2 day shipping unless stated?), I won't overlook issues with products of the same category. 

 

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Posted 23 September 2016 - 02:16 PM

Ah I see!

 

So um

 

Why don't gaming computers run these kinds of processors?



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Posted 23 September 2016 - 02:45 PM

Ah I see!

 

So um

 

Why don't gaming computers run these kinds of processors?

Because they are too expensive for gamers maybe? I would sink more money on the GPU rather than the CPU.



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Posted 23 September 2016 - 03:24 PM

Ah I see!
 
So um
 
Why don't gaming computers run these kinds of processors?

Because they are too expensive for gamers maybe? I would sink more money on the GPU rather than the CPU.


No. Because games rarely have use for extra cores those CPU's can offer, quad core with high clock speed is much better for games than 16-core with lower clock speed.

Another reason is that gamers generally have much better knowledge (and less money) than server buyers so gamers don't want to pay too much whereas server buyers don't really care. They buy what is offered, no matter what cost.

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Posted 23 September 2016 - 03:25 PM

GPUs are oriented toward what a user sees on the monitor/screen...games have the same orientation...so, IMO (I'am a non-gamer), it makes sense that the GPU should be the most important component for gamers.  And there is greater potential for future expansion with a GPU than there exists with a CPU.  If you have a high-grade CPU...there is little sense in upgrading to something that probably provides a less-than-10% effieiency increase.  At the speeds that a CPU operates, 10% may not be distignuishable by a human.

 

A system's CPU provides the raw power to do...the arduous work that may be piled on a system.  Rendering, multi-tasking, calculating, running very complicated apps...these are the items that a CPU excels at and a faster CPU allows a system to more faster, but it won't necessarily provide better FPS or better gaming without understanding the role of the GPU.

 

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Posted 24 September 2016 - 03:32 AM

Ah I see!

 

So um

 

Why don't gaming computers run these kinds of processors?

 

Jimmy, how about posting your system specs using Speccy to help up assist you further. Those are server CPU's at that price. Not what a typical desktop user would run, unless filthy rich & has cash to throw in the wind. 

 

Here's how to post your system snapshot, and no worries, your Windows COA & other personal info (such as IP address) won't be seen by us. :)

 

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  • Once inside Speccy, it will look similar to this (with your computer's specifications, of course):
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  • Congrats! You have just posted your specs!

It's as simple as that, and we can go from there. :)

 

BTW, did you read the post by hamluis in Post #12? It really makes a lot of sense & practical for everyday users. Spending cash on the needed components are critical for gaming, no matter how powerful the CPU is. Looking at the prices that you were for CPU's, if you have a solid quad core (even if i5), than a GTX 1070/1080 may be a better option over expensive CPU's. :)

 

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#14 JimmyKarter

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Posted 24 September 2016 - 02:00 PM

thx all

i understand enough



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Posted 25 September 2016 - 01:05 AM

You're welcome! :)

 

Whenever you decide to build yourself a gaming rig, come back, we'll be happy to assist you in doing so. :thumbup2:

 

Just remember one thing, for the price of one of those CPU's listed, you can build a respectable gaming rig from scratch from a i7-4790K (Z97 platform) or i7-6700K (Z170 platform). This allows you to go with a much faster NVMe SSD than a SATA-3 can provide in terms of speed. It takes every component possible (CPU, GPU, RAM, PSU & SSD for starters) to have a decent gaming PC. 

 

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