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#1 Jeremy_C

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 08:22 PM

Well, it's not actually installed  yet - Few hours away...
 
I have Linux Mint 17.3 (MATE) on a USB and ready to go. Just finishing up some stuff before I pave over XP with Mint. I went with 17.3 (for stability) simply because there are so many things I don't know or I'm not familiar with yet. I figure most of the necessary updates have been applied and most of the bugs should be well known by now. That should make the transition just a little smoother for now.
 
I've been doing some research for about 24 hours and between a combination of blogs and YouTube I've come up with a list of things I should probably do right after a fresh Linux install. Some of these things may not apply to all distros, but many should.
 
So here's the combined and edited list I've come up with. I'm hoping you guys and gals could give me some input on your process of stepping things up after a new install, and also the order in which you do those things.
  • UPDATE THE SYSTEM
  • TURN ON THE FIREWALL
  • REMOVE MONO AND ORCA (???)
  • INSTALL UBUNTU-RESTRICTED-EXTRAS
  • INSTALL MISSING DRIVERS
  • SELECT AN UPDATE POLICY AND APPLY ALL AVAILABLE UPDATES
  • DECREASE THE SWAP USE (IMPORTANT)
  • DISABLE HIBERNATION (SUSPEND-TO-DISK)
  • DISABLE SCREEN SAVER IS CONFIGURED CORRECTLY
  • FIX BRIGHTNESS ISSUE [FOR INTEL GRAPHICS]
  • POST-INSTALL CLEANUP
  • SOLVE SOME KNOWN BUGS - RESEARCH THE LIST FOR YOUR DISTRO
  • SPEED UP YOUR MATE
  • OPTIMIZE YOUR SOLID STATE DRIVE (SSD)
  • OPTIMIZE FIREFOX
  • CREATE MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS: PREVENT OTHER USERS FROM ACCESSING THE FILES IN YOUR ACCOUNT
  • INSTALL RAR AND OTHER ARCHIVING UTILITIES
  • INSTALL MORE BROWSERS
  • INSTALL MULTIMEDIA CODECS
  • INSTALL CONKY
  • INSTALL A CLIPBOARD MANAGER
  • INSTALL HARDINFO - SYSTEM INFORMATION TOOL
Any of these things redundant or even useless?
 
Am I missing anything important (besides finally installing the darn OS)?
 
Appreciate any advice or input on this.

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 09:27 PM

Wow... that's a really comprehensive list Jeremy. Most of them are null and void though with Mint 16+.

 

To be honest I normally just install the OS, turn the firewall on and update it... nothing more. If other things come that need dealing with I deal with them as they come.

 

Reconfiguring your SSD could have some value, but maybe not also.

 

The beauty of new user friendly distros is they don't require as much stuffing around as nix OS's of the past.


Edited by TsVk!, 14 September 2016 - 09:28 PM.


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Posted 14 September 2016 - 10:30 PM

 

OPTIMIZE YOUR SOLID STATE DRIVE (SSD)

What do you mean by this?

 

 

DECREASE THE SWAP USE (IMPORTANT)

Are you going to play with swappiness?

 

 

INSTALL RAR AND OTHER ARCHIVING UTILITIES

I have never bothered with this on Ubuntu, I just right click the file and select extract here, works every time.

 

 

INSTALL CONKY

This is optional,

 

 

SELECT AN UPDATE POLICY AND APPLY ALL AVAILABLE UPDATES

I just leave this on default settings, If it aint broke it DON"T need fixing.

 

 

FIX BRIGHTNESS ISSUE [FOR INTEL GRAPHICS]

There is a brightness issue? Must be a Mint thing.



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Posted 14 September 2016 - 10:30 PM

I agree with TsVk!, but there are some good things on that list to consider.  It's getting late for me so will let the Night-owls get you up-to-speed.  Being a Gear-head I love to see specs at the start of a Thread, that way they are easy to find when answering questions deeper in the Thread.  It's easy enough to Copy Paste the command below into Terminal and press Enter, even from a LiveSession, then Highlight and Right Click Copy Paste it into a Code Box <> here.  It is also nice for you to have to refer to any time you are in this Thread.  And, glad to see you took advice to instal 17.3, I think it will be trouble free for you.  I'm in my Mate 17.1 right now!

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Posted 15 September 2016 - 12:33 AM

DECREASE THE SWAP USE (IMPORTANT)


I disagree that this is important, and think it's more of a myth. Even on a computer with not much RAM (768MiB), I have played around with adjusting the swap usage value (swappiness) and have noticed no difference whatsoever - except that the computer can start to freeze if the value is set too low. Nowadays I just leave it at its default setting.
 

To be honest I normally just install the OS, turn the firewall on and update it... nothing more. If other things come that need dealing with I deal with them as they come.


Me too, although I like Conky so I always install it - don't care much for the default black and white display though.

Edited by Al1000, 15 September 2016 - 12:38 AM.


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Posted 15 September 2016 - 12:43 AM

 

I have played around with adjusting the swap usage value (swappiness) and have noticed no difference whatsoever

I agree, If your PC has a lot of ram 8GiB or more you don't even need a swap partition.



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Posted 15 September 2016 - 02:07 AM

Try the Opera Browser- it's my favorite! You will have to download it from Opera.com since it isn't in the software packages,but then again,neither is Google Chrome.Both should be - IMHO!


Edited by paul88ks, 15 September 2016 - 02:09 AM.


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Posted 15 September 2016 - 04:14 AM

Wow! Awesome responses! Looks like I can save a lot of time and trouble by not going through even half of the stuff on that list.

 

Honestly, I don't even know what it means (just figured I'd look it up like everything else) to optimize an SSD or mess with swap settings, so one probably won't get done and the other sounds unnecessary since I will have 8 GB ram running,

 

Obviously, firewall is a must.

 

But what about UBUNTU-RESTRICTED-EXTRAS ? From what I understand that gets you a lot of codecs and other software that (while unnecessary) makes life a little easier. Mostly stuff that doesn't come with a distro itself for licensing reasons, etc. Anybody use that or is that just more fluff?

 

Should be installing Mint in a few hours. Already 5 am here and I got a few things I need to tend to this morning before I go full-bore at this thing. I'll get some specs posted up soon as its breathing fire.

 

Thanks everyone for all the advice!


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Posted 15 September 2016 - 04:18 AM

Just install stuff as you need it mate.

 

You'll discover that 99.9% of what you need is already there and when you do discover something that's not you'll have a few choices, cross those bridges then.



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Posted 15 September 2016 - 11:18 AM

Just install stuff as you need it mate.

 

You'll discover that 99.9% of what you need is already there and when you do discover something that's not you'll have a few choices, cross those bridges then.

I agree again with TsVk! and! lol.

 

 

Obviously, firewall is a must.

 

But what about UBUNTU-RESTRICTED-EXTRAS ? From what I understand that gets you a lot of codecs and other software that (while unnecessary) makes life a little easier. Mostly stuff that doesn't come with a distro itself for licensing reasons, etc. Anybody use that or is that just more fluff?

I don't know how important the firewall is when you already have a good Router but I always turn it on because I use Laptops, and sometimes in public areas, and don't have a top notch Router at home either.

 

UBUNTU-RESTRICTED-EXTRAS  I leave you with this link.  You can also type it in the Software Manager and see some reviews along with a google search.  On my new SSD Install have not even installed it yet, don't play much music that way, just use youtube.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats

 

I'm up in the air about swap with my 4GB of RAM, so I just installed 2GB of it.  I did however set swappiness to "1" to prevent wear.  This way if needed I can just change the swappiness value if I have any issues.

 

DISABLE HIBERNATION (SUSPEND-TO-DISK)

POST-INSTALL CLEANUP

INSTALL MORE BROWSERS

INSTALL MISSING DRIVERS

1. This is done by default in Mint but you can always double check it.

 

2. Yes but there won't be to much there at this point.

 

3. I always install Chrome and Chromium.  Chrome from the interwebs, and Chromium from the SM.

 

4. I think you have Nvidia, but I don't think you need to install the drivers unless you are having issues, or play games that require them.  There is/or should be a Opensource driver that will work until you decide to install the Proprietary one.  For now just accept Third Party Stuff when you install, and be hooked up to internet.

 

I don't bother Optimizing stuff anymore, Mint, especially Mate, works really well OOTB.  It's a lot of work, and you need to keep track of all the changes you make.

 
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Posted 15 September 2016 - 01:45 PM

 

 

I have played around with adjusting the swap usage value (swappiness) and have noticed no difference whatsoever

I agree, If your PC has a lot of ram 8GiB or more you don't even need a swap partition.

 

As a desktop system I run Debian Jessie (stable) in a frugal read only manner on a 2GB system i.e. all changes recorded in memory ... without any swap at all. If I do any heavy work then I might create and activate a swap file, such as creating a 1GB swap :

 

dd if=/dev/zero of=swapfile bs=1024k count=1024
mkswap swapfile
swapon swapfile

 

For many I suspect 4GB would be more than enough without needing any swap. Subject of course to what you actually run/do.


Edited by rufwoof, 15 September 2016 - 01:46 PM.

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Posted 15 September 2016 - 02:16 PM

Well, running Mint from USB at the moment. I thought when I used Pendrive to create a bootable INSTALL but it seems to have booted Mint straight away but also gives me an INSTALL option on the dekstop. Try that soon.

For now, my first impression from just clicking around and then loading Firefox - Damn this thing is laggy! If Im going to run Mint (MATE) I'm going to have figure out some serious tweaks. Not very responsive or smooth at all.
 

Being a Gear-head I love to see specs at the start of a Thread, that way they are easy to find when answering questions deeper in the Thread.  It's easy enough to Copy Paste the command below into Terminal and press Enter, even from a LiveSession, then Highlight and Right Click Copy Paste it into a Code Box <> here.  It is also nice for you to have to refer to any time you are in this Thread.  And, glad to see you took advice to instal 17.3, I think it will be trouble free for you.  I'm in my Mate 17.1 right now!

inxi -Fxz

The specs as suggested...
 

mint@mint ~ $ inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: mint Kernel: 3.19.0-32-generic x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 4.8.2)
           Desktop: MATE 1.12.0 (Gtk 3.10.8~8+qiana)
           Distro: Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa
Machine:   System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP Compaq dx2400 Microtower PC
           Mobo: PEGATRON model: 2A73h v: 1.01
           Bios: American Megatrends v: 5.35 date: 12/16/2008
CPU:       Dual core Pentium E5200 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) bmips: 9999
           clock speeds: max: 2500 MHz 1: 2400 MHz 2: 2500 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GF119 [GeForce GT 610] bus-ID: 04:00.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.17.1 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1440x900@59.9hz, 1440x900@59.9hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NVD9
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 10.5.9 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card-1 NVIDIA GF119 HDMI Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 04:00.1
           Card-2 Intel 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k3.19.0-32-generic
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: e800 bus-ID: 02:00.0
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 252.1GB (0.7% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD2500AAJS size: 250.1GB temp: 38C
           ID-2: USB /dev/sdb model: USB_Flash_Disk size: 2.0GB temp: 0C
Partition: ID-1: / size: 3.9G used: 89M (3%) fs: overlay dev: N/A
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 62.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 49.0
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 161 Uptime: 4 min Memory: 625.2/7984.0MB
           Init: Upstart runlevel: 2 Gcc sys: 4.8.4
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.111) inxi: 2.2.28 
mint@mint ~ $ 

A programmer's wife sends him to the store for a gallon of milk,

and she adds the instructions, "If there are eggs, buy a dozen."

The programmer goes to the store and returns home with 13 gallons of milk.


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Posted 15 September 2016 - 03:46 PM

It's very laggy because you're running off a USB thumbdrive. :wink:


Edited by TsVk!, 15 September 2016 - 03:46 PM.


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Posted 15 September 2016 - 03:46 PM

Well, running Mint from USB at the moment.


That's why it's slow. It will be considerably faster when you've installed it. The difference will be night and day.

EDIT: TsVk! beat me to it. :)

Edited by Al1000, 15 September 2016 - 03:47 PM.


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Posted 15 September 2016 - 05:08 PM

Well, I have complete trust in your opinions, so it's installing to the box as I type this.

 

Back soon with more...

 

Thanks much! :thumbup2:


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